EPCOT Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment

FigmentsBrightIdeas

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Ok, we're getting weird again.
Indeed.. like.. may I remind you folks that this is the very same park that holds the Candlelight Processional (a choir event, usually hosted by a celebrity speaker that retells the story of the birth of Jesus Christ/the first Christmas) every year, correct? (Fun fact: that event was started by Walt at Disneyland before it eventually made it’s way to EPCOT Center aswell to carry on that tradition) Dreamfinder & Figment are basically a Santa Claus & his Elves equivalent if anything, they continue on the spirit of kindness, generosity & positive inspiration to use God’s gift of creativity/imagination to us to do good in this world with it. All of EPCOT Center was originally designed to be a beacon of hope like this. It’s not God or Jesus themselves, but it certainly continues his spirit of giving people hope & generosity to use our achievements, abilities, etc. to do good & provide good things for our fellow man in whatever field we choose to pursue, to make the world a better place .
 
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FigmentsBrightIdeas

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I gotta say though, in such troubled/sad times as of late, theme parks like EPCOT Center, characters like Dreamfinder & Figment, and attractions like the original 83-98 Journey Into Imagination, etc. would genuinely be a ‘fantastic’ way to spread positive goodwill, hope, love & generosity to people that need it at the moment. The timing would be perfect.

You guys should think back and remember just how much of a goodwill ambassador Walt, his dedicated team of creatives, and his original studio creations did for many around the world back in the day in similar tough times. The same thing could happen today with those classic EPCOT Center characters & attractions. Aswell as a new & upcoming generation of creatives that, like Walt’s team & the team behind EPCOT Center, are dedicated to seeing through, creating things that continue that same quality & spirit to help inspire sincere hope & inspiration to people all around the world. I sincerely hope & pray that indeed will happen, that God’s grace & love for us will see us through and make that dream a reality. 🙏🏻
 
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Disgruntled Walt

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In the Parks
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Indeed.. like.. may I remind you folks that this is the very same park that holds the Candlelight Processional (a choir event, usually hosted by a celebrity speaker that retells the story of the birth of Jesus Christ/the first Christmas) every year, correct? (Fun fact: that event was started by Walt at Disneyland before it eventually made it’s way to EPCOT Center aswell to carry on that tradition) Dreamfinder & Figment are basically a Santa Claus & his Elves equivalent if anything, they continue on the spirit of kindness, generosity & positive inspiration to use God’s gift of creativity/imagination to us to do good in this world with it. All of EPCOT Center was originally designed to be a beacon of hope like this. It’s not God or Jesus themselves, but it certainly continues his spirit of giving people hope & generosity to use our achievements, abilities, etc. to do good & provide good things for our fellow man in whatever field we choose to pursue, to make the world a better place.
As a high school religion teacher, I have to say you're preaching to the choir here! I'm all for religious symbolism in the parks!
 

Zak and Wheezie

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I actually got a Figment shirt for Christmas.
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It's too bad they care more about nostalgia merch for 40 somethings than actually doing something with the ride.
 

Zak and Wheezie

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I actually was thinking, and this is just fiction, but what if someone from 2025 time-traveled to early 1998 when they were in the planning stages to close the original ride? Basically show them what would happen, with the backlash and stuff. What would the Disney execs do if they were able to see how people would react? Kind of "Meet The Robinsons" style.
 

Agent H

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I actually was thinking... what if someone from 2025 time-traveled to early 1998 when they were in the planning stages to close the original ride? Basically show them what would happen, with the backlash and stuff. What would the Disney execs do if they were able to see how people would react?
Probably nothing because they wouldn’t believe you are from the future
 

DreamfinderGuy

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I actually was thinking, and this is just fiction, but what if someone from 2025 time-traveled to early 1998 when they were in the planning stages to close the original ride? Basically show them what would happen, with the backlash and stuff. What would the Disney execs do if they were able to see how people would react? Kind of "Meet The Robinsons" style.
If you were able to believably demonstrate how badly the second ride would have flopped, they would have just built the third ride in 1999. They were dead set on theming the whole pavilion around HISTA, they would have just recognized that killing figment was a bad idea and put Figment in the HISTA ride three years ahead of schedule.
 

Zak and Wheezie

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If you were able to believably demonstrate how badly the second ride would have flopped, they would have just built the third ride in 1999. They were dead set on theming the whole pavilion around HISTA, they would have just recognized that killing figment was a bad idea and put Figment in the HISTA ride three years ahead of schedule.
I think the turntable system was also a somewhat small/big part in why the 1983 ride closed. It kind of proved to be too revolutionary for it's own good and it caused many issues with the ride.
 

FigmentsBrightIdeas

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I think the turntable system was also a somewhat small/big part in why the 1983 ride closed. It kind of proved to be too revolutionary for it's own good and it caused many issues with the ride.
Honestly, I disagree, I believe in truth it was all ‘projected’ maintenance costs due to the artificially lowered attendance that truly did it in. The ride usually never had problems with the turntable from what I’ve heard from others and have seen in ride-thru videos. Every once in a while, sometimes due to the ride computer’s job to correct when ride stops would happen every once in a while, sometimes the ride vehicles would try to join/catch-up onto the turntable either too quickly or too late, and this would cause the ride computer to immediately stop the ride to re-sync and correct the issue. Ultimately, the ride wasn’t really “breaking” as some assumed, it was simply doing its job. Though the issue of the minor stops that caused the ride to go out of sync could’ve been easily fixed with today’s technology.
 

FigmentsBrightIdeas

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If anything cost the most on the turntable, it was basically the projection system they had that formed all the mechanical lighting & photo slide effects in the background/sky behind Dreamfinder & Figment’s flying machine. In truth, most of that could now be simplified into one or a couple projectors and most of the effects be digital to cut maintenance costs.
 

TinkerBelle8878

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If you were able to believably demonstrate how badly the second ride would have flopped, they would have just built the third ride in 1999. They were dead set on theming the whole pavilion around HISTA, they would have just recognized that killing figment was a bad idea and put Figment in the HISTA ride three years ahead of schedule.

I'll give you one better, go back further in time, have Honey I shrunk the kids flop at the box office and then at least that retheme is moot. And in that same timeline, build up and market Figment as an iconic Disney character instead of Roger Rabbit.
 

Nobody nobody

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Figment being kicked out of his own ride is kinda a Disney parks “cannon event” at this point.
I'll give you one better, go back further in time, have Honey I shrunk the kids flop at the box office and then at least that retheme is moot. And in that same timeline, build up and market Figment as an iconic Disney character instead of Roger Rabbit.
believe me, they would’ve found an IP. They wanted figgy gone. And really did go all in on Roger rabbit. Honestly if the Henson deal went through in the 90s though it probably would’ve been Kermit in all those parades instead of Roger.
 

Nobody nobody

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Oh god I don’t wanna know nothing good ever happens to a Disney park when someone says “I want this to be more hip”
how we got Under new management. that’s a story for another thread.
Unironically, for me, my least favorite part of the show is the finale song where nobody sings and it is really obvious that the remaining OG tiki room voice actors cannot sing in the voices anymore and kinda show their age and it all makes me more depressed than it should.
 

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