EPCOT Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment

KDM31091

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A lot of the space behind the WoL building on its north side is now occupied by Cosmic Rewind. It might be conceivable to expand to its eastern rear (behind the former Cranium Command section), but there's an imagineering building in the way that would need to go and the road would also need to be rerouted (again). Maybe not impossible, but unlikely and also probably not necessary.

The WoL pavilion has mostly been gutted mostly down to bare metal and concrete inside. The former Body Wars and Cranium Command spaces combined amounts to approximately 40,000 square feet. If those two spaces could be combined together (which seems like it might be possible, that's a respectably large whole that could house a decently large dark ride. Especially if they use a ride system that is space efficient (as in something not trackless, maybe an omnimover or even just a traditional bus-bar like system). It's about the same square footage as WDW's Haunted Mansion or Ratatouille (not including the queue).

That also isn't really including the main "dome" lobby. Add that onto the size and the WoL pavilion is close to 85,000 square feet in total.
Why are they so against using WoL?
 

DreamfinderGuy

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Why are they so against using WoL?
WoL is a tough space to work with. Extremely purpose built and doesn't lend itself to doing anything more than another stab at WoL's attraction lineup very well, especially now that Cosmic Rewind and WDI FL preclude them from expanding the building. Even the last proposal didn't use any of the main attraction facilities, it was just a reuse of the dome. It's significantly easier for them to continue ignoring it and focus on new builds/gut and rebuilds with structures easier to work with (like Universe of Energy)
 

FigmentFan82

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WoL is a tough space to work with. Extremely purpose built and doesn't lend itself to doing anything more than another stab at WoL's attraction lineup very well, especially now that Cosmic Rewind and WDI FL preclude them from expanding the building. Even the last proposal didn't use any of the main attraction facilities, it was just a reuse of the dome. It's significantly easier for them to continue ignoring it and focus on new builds/gut and rebuilds with structures easier to work with (like Universe of Energy)
I feel like ordering some fresh simulators to put in body wars area would be a fairly easy thing to do. but what do i know?
 

Homemade Imagineering

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I thought that Pete Docter specifically didn't want to put Inside Out into Imagination ride because that's Figment's ride - hopefully he hasnt' changed his mind. Is there any way they could build an expansion to WoL to fit a ride behind it?
I certainly hope not. I’m hoping whatever this is I’m reading far too much into it, I’m not even sure whether this guy is much of an insider. Frankly it’s just very difficult to be optimistic right now, the sensationalist in me begins to buzz whenever I see stuff like this
 

UNCgolf

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WoL is a tough space to work with. Extremely purpose built and doesn't lend itself to doing anything more than another stab at WoL's attraction lineup very well, especially now that Cosmic Rewind and WDI FL preclude them from expanding the building. Even the last proposal didn't use any of the main attraction facilities, it was just a reuse of the dome. It's significantly easier for them to continue ignoring it and focus on new builds/gut and rebuilds with structures easier to work with (like Universe of Energy)

Ideally they'd move those WDI offices elsewhere and expand into that location, but I'm sure that's one of the last things they'd choose to do.
 

GenChi

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What emotion does everyone feel about the future of Imagination after D23?
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FigmentFan82

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One, that is easier said than done, and two, would Disney really want to open another attraction using 40 year old Star Tours tech? That’s the major reason why Body Wars hasn’t been considered for use as attraction space in forever
And yet people like(d) those rides. This narrative that because it's an older type of system renders it irrelevant doesn't seem to hold water, at least with the public. I love Space Mountain and there's nothing new about that ride.
Also, I'm sure if they wanted they could contract a company to manufacture some new simulators.
 

Phicinfan

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What emotion does everyone feel about the future of Imagination after D23?
Numb? Status quo, I don't fear as many here that Figment will be gone, he makes too much $$$$ in merch.
That being said, I expect any new major expenditure to EPCOT to be updating SSE, before they even touch Imagination. I also think neither gets done until TT is completed.

Quite honestly, Imagination needs complete overhaul IMO. I don't see them wanting to take that on.
 

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