EPCOT Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment

FigmentsBrightIdeas

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Ummm, is this a test of something? Because I think I could live with Muppets and Figment coexisting over old and decrepit Figment or no Figment at all.


‘Or’ how about just learn from the mistake that retheming to film IP (in the most recent/last case, Honey I Shrunk IP) was a mistake and that there were no issues with Dreamfinder & the original Imagination theme. As such, it should be restored back to its former glory w tech & spfx enhancements/upgrades. Not ‘yet another’ unneccesary film or tv IP overlay.
 
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FigmentsBrightIdeas

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Slapping the Muppets onto the current ride is going to do ‘nothing’ except continue on the same issue that started with the Honey I Shrunk IP retheming in Journey Into YOUR Imagination and the With Figment version that came right after it. Figment doesn’t ‘need’ tv or film IP to be relevant. It’s on the same level as something like Haunted Mansion. It works as it own thing. Fine if you maybe wanna do a Muppets themed special on Disney Plus.. but a ‘permanent’ ride overlay? Please no. Instead, for the Muppets, why not expand the Muppets Courtyard like originally planned with the Great Muppet Movie ride & the elaborately themed restaurant rather than the bare minimum thing we have now?
 
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Thelazer

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I'd be okay with a muppet ride over what the JIYI ride currently is.
I mean, I'd LIKE a JIYI 1.0 back.. but hell, if we can't get it.. bulldoze it and put in the muppts.
 

Rodj

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Honestly, part of me is glad JIYI & JIIwF happened, or else we would of seen current maintenance standards ruin the experience of the original ride(hardly any effects/animatronics would be working properly if it was still open to this day.)
 

EagleScout610

Owner of a RKF - Resting Kermit Face
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Not gonna lie, I'd be down for a Muppets retheme/overhaul of Figment. Think about it, you're transported through Muppet Labs as Bunsen and Beaker attempt to see into imagination and things go wrong in true Muppet fashion. Throw in some truly wacky gags, and maybe keeping Figment to cause some mayhem with the Muppets and we'd have a worthy replacement on our hands.
 

Cmdr_Crimson

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Honestly, part of me is glad JIYI & JIIwF happened, or else we would of seen current maintenance standards ruin the experience of the original ride(hardly any effects/animatronics would be working properly if it was still open to this day.)
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FigmentsBrightIdeas

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I'd be okay with a muppet ride over what the JIYI ride currently is.
I mean, I'd LIKE a JIYI 1.0 back.. but hell, if we can't get it.. bulldoze it and put in the muppts.
You mean JII. Journey Into Imagination. Y implies Journey Into ^Your Imagination and that’s the same lousy Honey I Shrunk IP one we have now, just with Figment in a lesser throw away cameo role than we have now.
But honestly, if you love the original iteration so much? Why not just advocate for an enhanced version of that? Why settle for more of the same garbage that ruined the pavilion to begin with? Why not simply expand the Muppet Courtyard at DHS like initially planned? Great Muppet Movie Ride anyone??
Not gonna lie, I'd be down for a Muppets retheme/overhaul of Figment. Think about it, you're transported through Muppet Labs as Bunsen and Beaker attempt to see into imagination and things go wrong in true Muppet fashion. Throw in some truly wacky gags, and maybe keeping Figment to cause some mayhem with the Muppets and we'd have a worthy replacement on our hands.
Figment is ‘not’ one who’s supposed to cause mayhem… he’s supposed to be ‘curious’, he’s a ‘learner’. Hence why he connected with us guests originally. He has the same childlike curiosity from Dreamfinder’s guidance & showcase of the realms of imagination that we had. Can we ‘not’ advocate for the same damn problematic needlessly rethemed attraction just with Muppets slapped in instead of Honey I Shrunk? It’s supposed to be a ride you come off inspired by, not one with a bunch of mayhem taking place that you come off thinking “what the hell was that?”.. C’mon guys. You all deserve better than this.
Well, Figment in it's current form is just suffering and wilting away, so if this is what's needed to bring some life into it, I say bring on The Muppets
So bring on Tiana and her Salt Mine into Splash right, simply cause maintenance sucks? Cause that food co-op revamp concept is such a grand idea that’ll bring more life to the attraction.. c’mon guys. Stick up for the standards Disney once had and the ones we still hold them to. Don’t accept lousy mediocrity like the last 2 versions.
 
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FigmentsBrightIdeas

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Everyone hates IP replacements unless it’s the Muppets for some reason
You can certainly count me out of that category. I ‘loathe’ unnecessary IP replacements or overlays, no matter what the IP is. Especially when the initial, beloved original/unique attraction & characters were so brilliantly produced & timeless in comparison to the lousy, ill-conceived IP replacements we got after.
 
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FigmentsBrightIdeas

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Well, Figment in it's current form is just suffering and wilting away, so if this is what's needed to bring some life into it, I say bring on The Muppets
Some “life”. Just like the Honey I Shrunk IP mixed with some other Medfield College connected films (Flubber, Computer Who Wore Tennis Shoes) brought “much needed life” into the pavilion in ‘99 and again in ‘02 (just with more Figment, not understanding what made that character and attraction work to begin with)
But hey, Figment’s still in it (seriously, listen to what you guys are saying and look at what destroyed this pavilion to begin with and what the current state is. That’s ‘literally’ no different except for a different IP theme for the Ill-conceived Institute framing/retheme w Figment shoehorned as an interference, which is completely antithetical to the ride’s concept/message.. ‘yet again’)
 
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EagleScout610

Owner of a RKF - Resting Kermit Face
Premium Member
So bring on Tiana and her Salt Mine into Splash right, simply cause maintenance sucks? Cause that food co-op revamp concept is such a grand idea that’ll bring more life to the attraction.. c’mon guys. Stick up for your standards. Don’t accept lousy mediocrity like the last 2 versions.
There's a difference between "Shove a plot that has absolutely no business being on a log flume" and "Take the time to create something that belongs on Imagination's ride track/setup".
 

FigmentsBrightIdeas

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There's a difference between "Shove a plot that has absolutely no business being on a log flume" and "Take the time to create something that belongs on Imagination's ride track/setup".
So copying what went wrong with the last 2 iterations of imagination is something that “belongs”? The original concept was the only thing that ever belonged, just with enhancements to the tech & spfx. Nothing more, nothing less. They took something that originally showcased the essence of how to approach and what could happen through imagination & creativity, and made it the most unimaginative pavilion of a tour that goes wrong.. through a bunch of lab equipment, charts, and doors about the senses that has ‘nothing’ to do with Imagination (but rather sensory perceptive tests, a thing ‘seperate’ from creativity).. and an upside down house isn’t much better. Is that a good representation of how creativity compliments art, literature, theatre, science & technology, ‘and’ film all at once like the original did? I certainly don’t think so..
 
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Figments Friend

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Ya’all are reading too much into the ‘Muppets at the Imagination Pavillion’ video clip.
The gang are just having a bit o’ fun and this in NO WAY suggests they are taking over the Pavillion.

The Pavillion has its own IP already.
And has for 40 years now.
Use it, Disney.
It’s about fluffing time.

You don’t need a ‘Figment committee’ to test if Guests are ready.
It’s been starting you in the face for the last 20 years…
Why won’t you take the hint..?
Get on it.
And get it done RIGHT.

Oh, and Muppets are not needed either.
The Dragon has spoken…

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