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Rumor Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment
- Thread starter Walrus from Paris
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Bocabear
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I think there is enough room for Indiana Jones without the Muppets...and you will have Star Tours in the middle of your Indiana Joes Land if you access Muppets area as part of it. Star Tours should have been rebuilt as part of the new Galaxy's Edge with it's exit leaving you in the land and the entrance outside of the tunnel...
James Alucobond
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I still think the Echo Lake area should be transformed into 1930s Shanghai from Temple of Doom, with the end of Commissary Lane where they currently have the Olaf meet-and-greet and Mickey & Minnie animated short becoming Club Obi Wan, complete with a nightclub show with Willie. This then connects it nominally to Star Tours, and you could rework Grand Avenue to be something else Star Wars from outside the time period of Galaxy's Edge more in line with the behind-the-scenes feel of Tours, also creating space to move the classic Star Wars meet-and-greets away from the opposite side of the park. Muppets should just be relocated, and an additional Indy attraction should be slotted in wherever they can fit it near the stunt show.
WondersOfLife
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I think Muppet labs would be a better fit in Epcot than literally any new addition in the recent attraction line-up.
YouMakeTheWorldGoRound
Active Member
Removing Muppet Vision 3-D, effectively ending the muppets presence in DHS and also ending Magic Eye as a concept make both parks weaker.
Barring just bringing back Captain EO, I’ve thought they should put a film about the history of Imagineering or history of Epcot Imagineering specifically. I don’t like the Film Festival but I would rather have that for 10 more years than try and shoehorn in the muppets.
There’s a lot of great ideas for Muppets in the parks…and this ain’t one of em!
Barring just bringing back Captain EO, I’ve thought they should put a film about the history of Imagineering or history of Epcot Imagineering specifically. I don’t like the Film Festival but I would rather have that for 10 more years than try and shoehorn in the muppets.
There’s a lot of great ideas for Muppets in the parks…and this ain’t one of em!
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yensidtlaw1969
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Not that I think they're considering it, but the queue for Rise of the Resistance is kind of in the way of anything wrapping behind MuppetVision like that. To connect to Galaxy's Edge they'd either have to reroute the RotR queue - unlikely - or wrap all the way behind the Rise of the Resistance showbuilding itself - even more unlikely.
Stuff like this drives me crazy - with just a little more thought they could have built Star Wars Land in a way that included Star Tours rather than leaving it floating on an island one land over. It just reeks of bad planning.
WondersOfLife
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Replacing the short film festival with a figment popcorn bucket stand would be an improvement.
Why? You can watch that on YouTube.
I'd much rather have muppet Vision move over there than have the film festival.
Yes it is. (see how that works? Opinions are opinions. Lol)
Sir_Cliff
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For me, there is something about the self-aware but not obnoxious sense of humour of The Muppets that lends itself to the parks and a variety of scenarios such as the excellent Liberty Square history shows. They also just don't feel like a franchise being shoved down your throat at every turn in the way something like Toy Story or Frozen can. Overall, I have the same feelings about preferring to stick with Figment (and maybe Dreamfinder) without another IP layered over the attraction, but Muppets would be one of the least objectionable IP integrations with Figment if they have to bring one in to re-do the pavilion.
I don't think they're generally under-utilised or neglected, though. My personal take is that Disney has tried to find a lot of vehicles to make The Muppets work and keep them relevant, and nothing has quite stuck. Considering they do already have a presence at the parks and seem to work well in that setting, I could kind of see them becoming more parks-based characters over time.
Muppets take Imagination Pavilion. Figment and Dreamfinder take plots of Monsters + Buzz in MK. Laugh Floor relocates to plot of former Muppet3D theatre along with new Door Coaster. Proposing this as an alternate armchair. If Muppets were to take over the Imagination Pavilion, the likelihood of Dreamfinder returning would be slim. By relocating Figment AND Dreamfinder to MK (blasphemous to some I'd imagine) the duo would get greater exposure with Dreamfinder going on to live another day.
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WondersOfLife
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Yea
Nah..
In my opinion, Figment can only exist in Epcot. He is literally Epcot's mascot at this point. By all means, why should figment replace something at another park when there's a giant empty gold done building, or even the current building he's Already in.... At a park he already has a presence in.
MagicHappens1971
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Star Tours has no place in Galaxy's Edge. It's not bad planning, it's cheapness, Star Tours and its surrounding areas should've been rethemed.
Oh, GE was poorly planned from a space utilization perspective. And expansion would require so much rework and building movement now it’s hard to believe the layout was approved.
Also, they could have used Star Tours as a gateway to GE, for those who rode it. Have a quick 3rd scene or ending that drops riders off in Batuu, then theme an exit that would have connected into GE. Of course, they would have needed to put GE in a better spot for that to happen.
yensidtlaw1969
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My point was that with a different concept they could and should have made Star Tours fit into the Star Wars Land they were building, whether or not that land was specifically Galaxy's Edge and Batuu.
I agree that Star Tours doesn't quite suit Galaxy's Edge as built, I just think the better choice would have been to make sense of what was already there with the new construction than to treat Star Tours like a separate entity.
At this point I do think Star Tours should just be rethemed.
SplashJacket
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I believe that was the original plan. They made an ending at GE years ago.
I would rather have Star Tours separate from GE than have it time-locked.
Also, I feel Star Tours needs defending. Please do not retheme it. The Iron Man sim in Hong Kong and Body Wars, both ride systems with the same tech, are and were flaming piles of garbage. There is near zero chance a Star Tours replacement would either be as good, or have as many variations.
Iron Man in Hong Kong could’ve easily had variations but it only has one aggressively mediocre film.
WondersOfLife
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Eat my shorts. You're just a wuss that can't handle blood! -.-
Bocabear
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That would be a big expansion, removing the Muppets completely to connect to Star Tours...and with no additional attractions in the pipeline, a pointless expansion. It feels like most of DHS master planning was rushed and reactionary with no real thought about growth.
Rodj
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I heavily believe that Josh said "end of next year" to stall until Destination D23 for the main announcement.