Rumor Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment

Inspired Figment

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On the opposite end of this, I feel like Disney would go cheap with the idea that “anything is better than what’s there now,” whereas with Tiana they know that they have to make something that lives up to what it’s replacing.
After the 2 other revamps both have gotten intense scrutiny for their cheap, slap-dash fashion they were done? Cmon now... Journey Into Imagination absolutely is another one that needs to live up to what was originally there. Especially when you consider its capacity & popularity back in the day.
 

Disgruntled Walt

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Another thing I truly ought to mention btw… considering the amount of changes they could make to Splash Mountain and how much investment they could put into crafting stuff for Tiana’s Bayou Adventure. A film that didn’t do well at the box office when it released. Journey Into Imagination would be nothing considering they don’t even have to craft a new attraction to have a successful revamp. The 1983-98 version is literally right there. ‘Guranteed’ success and most of the infrastructure is there and Figment & Dreamfinder merch sells as well as it does. All that really needs to be done is adding back more groups of vehicles, taking out the current sets (which there’s little to none anyway. Lol) and replacing them with replicas of the originals. They should have all the blueprints and stuff to do this successfully. And with the way they’re improving the Country Bear AAs and all, doing that same sort of thing to Dreamfinder & Figment AAs should be simple. Especially considering. The 3 main AAs in the OG ride plus ones that were on display in the Odyssey building & One Man’s Dream could be reinstalled and redressed no problem. They either are or utilize the same molds as the OG animatronics.. it’s actually a lot simpler than they think. And most if not every problem with the turntable scene could be ‘easily’ fixed with today’s technology improvement made within WDI.
Do we know the present location of the Dreamfinder animatronics?
 

Inspired Figment

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Do we know the present location of the Dreamfinder animatronics?
They might have to rebuild them.. but considering the original molds are still present. ( been on display at recent D23 exhibits and videos showing the interior WDI figure sculpting room. It should practically cost nothing to make new molds of those and use the updated AA tech they’re using for Country Bears in him & Figment.). There were 11 figures of Dreamfinder, most only utilizing the same mold repositioned and simple head, mouth, & arm movements (5 on the opening turntable scene, 1 in the Work of Art scene, 1 in the Literature scene, 1 in Performing Arts, 1 in Science, 1 that told Figment’s fortune before making way to the finale scene, and then 1 last figure that took/showed your picture at the end ala the Owl in Splash Mountain.
 
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DreamfinderGuy

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Resurrecting the original ride is significantly easier said than done, they did a lot of damage with JIYI. You can't put the turntable back, you'd have to do some insane crafty thing like making five dream mobiles that move on their own around and around in circles. The rest? Yeah, it could theoretically be redone, but the turntable is a huge hurdle.
 

Inspired Figment

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Resurrecting the original ride is significantly easier said than done, they did a lot of damage with JIYI. You can't put the turntable back, you'd have to do some insane crafty thing like making five dream mobiles that move on their own around and around in circles. The rest? Yeah, it could theoretically be redone, but the turntable is a huge hurdle.
But isn’t the turntable mech literally there behind wall & floor boards? I’m certain it’s still there and that it wasn’t removed. You can even see the structure still along the walls and floors if you know where to look, It again probably just needs some tlc to get it running again, much like the disabled/covered over by hollow floor boards, parts of the track.
 
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FigmentJedi

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That pitch didn't go far, I can assume it was a more 'broad' theme than just Imagination.

Yeah, Figment is staying no matter what happens to the ride in some sort of role. He's already the King of EPCOT, but he would just become the God of EPCOT at that point lol. He already has all of this mind you, the ride just helps boost his case.

Figment is safe, any retheming attempts have been swatted down.
The meme remains evergreen
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Haymarket2008

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Oh hey! I heard about the 'swap out Eric Idle for Dreamfinder' rumors awhile back but didn't pay much mind to them. Keep an eye on this type of rumor because it's looking to be the most likely. Though it's important that the show scenes won't stay the same if this is the route they go.

The approach is looking to be 'Imagination 1 on SparkNotes' if they go that route. So the whole 'touch, taste, smell, etc labs' will be gone. There are SOME proposals that want to reinstall the missing track, some want to make it into an omnimover, Imagination has a lot of moving parts in regards to redevelopment, especially as the Figment film project gets further into development.

There is no route where you get Imagination 1 back 1:1, sorry. Also do not expect any of this to happen anytime soon, Your best case scenario is EPCOT 50 right now.

Did you know Imagination and Test Track were supposed to be updated for EPCOT 40? Yeah, some world ending thing happened.

I mean, I sort of expected them to go the Dreamfinder route but keep the infrastructure and just gut the sets and go back to something impressive visually. I'm not against that. I suppose I want something a bit more ambitious, though.
 

Haymarket2008

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Resurrecting the original ride is significantly easier said than done, they did a lot of damage with JIYI. You can't put the turntable back, you'd have to do some insane crafty thing like making five dream mobiles that move on their own around and around in circles. The rest? Yeah, it could theoretically be redone, but the turntable is a huge hurdle.

Also I think the turntable sequence will most likely become a pre-show of some sorts. I'm thinking an extended version of the pre-show/ opening scene of Mystic Manor.

No way in heck that the turntable comes back.
 

Earlie the Pearlie

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They might have to rebuild them.. but considering the original molds are still present. ( been on display at recent D23 exhibits and videos showing the interior WDI figure sculpting room.
And the mayor of Phantom Canyon! They might have built that animatronic in the 90s, but I’m sure they’ve had to replace the face, so they must still have that mold!
 

EagleScout610

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On the opposite end of this, I feel like Disney would go cheap with the idea that “anything is better than what’s there now,” whereas with Tiana they know that they have to make something that lives up to what it’s replacing.
That's my concern with Figment. Since people complain about V3 I wouldn't put it past Disney to throw a bandaid on and say "See isn't this better?".
 

zipadee999

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That's my concern with Figment. Since people complain about V3 I wouldn't put it past Disney to throw a bandaid on and say "See isn't this better?".
That’s valid, but I feel that the nature of V3 would hopefully prevent that. V3 was built as a quick fix to V2 by attempting (and failing) to bring back some of the original’s charm. In 2002, people could compare the two, and say V3 was better. However, since V3 brought back figment, people now use the ‘original figment ride’ as their only frame of reference. Because figment is in V3, unlike V2, people compare it to the only other place they saw Figment, which was V1. It’s no longer “We want figment back and we’ll take anything,” it’s “Give us the original figment because this new version’s awful.” Because V1 is now the gold standard frame of reference, hopefully V4 will be compared to V1 rather than V3
 

Disgruntled Walt

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That’s valid, but I feel that the nature of V3 would hopefully prevent that. V3 was built as a quick fix to V2 by attempting (and failing) to bring back some of the original’s charm. In 2002, people could compare the two, and say V3 was better. However, since V3 brought back figment, people now use the ‘original figment ride’ as their only frame of reference. Because figment is in V3, unlike V2, people compare it to the only other place they saw Figment, which was V1. It’s no longer “We want figment back and we’ll take anything,” it’s “Give us the original figment because this new version’s awful.” Because V1 is now the gold standard frame of reference, hopefully V4 will be compared to V1 rather than V3
And I don't think anyone in 2002 thought V3 would last longer than the other two versions combined!
 

Inspired Figment

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Even if they could easily bring the turn table back I don't think they would because maintenance on it was apparently a nightmare.
Yet that seems to be why they’ve been upgrading hydraulic powered AA figures to updated electric motor powered ones for that very reason. Why not simply do the same for whatever system was running the turntable, especially if the infrastructure is still there behind the base boards/temporary hollow walls and floors placed above it?? All the more reason to simply go and update it. On top of upgrading the computers/software used to run the ride itself, To ‘lessen’ the amount of maintenance needed on it back in the day aswell as currently since ‘99/‘02.
 

Brer Oswald

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The turntable is what motivated opperations to close the attraction in the first place. It's been 26 years or so, and WDI has tons of brilliant engineers that are constantly developing new tech. I'm sure they could come up with a solution to make this scene (or a similar scene) work again. It would obviously need more investment than what is being proposed.
 

DreamfinderGuy

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But isn’t the turntable mech literally there behind wall & floor boards? I’m certain it’s still there and that it wasn’t removed. You can even see the structure still along the walls and floors if you know where to look, It again probably just needs some tlc to get it running again, much like the disabled/covered over by hollow floor boards, parts of the track.
It's "intact" the same way the sunken floors in CommuniCore are. Structurally yes, it's there, but modified to the point where it will never be functional again.
Even if they could easily bring the turn table back I don't think they would because maintenance on it was apparently a nightmare.
Speaking under the assumption that they could theoretically "bring it back" - it wouldn't be what was there before. It's no longer 1998, you could get it working a lot more reliably. It was less the turntable itself causing problems and more the show control system not playing nice with it.
 

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