Rumor Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment

Cmdr_Crimson

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Certain parties thought this back when the ‘Figment’ comic series was released a few years ago, also featuring Jason.
Nothing came of it.

It DID however make some folks in the Corporate office stand up and take notice of the attention it was getting.
It did have a small effect, and did clue them in as to how much the Original Attraction mattered to some people, as they literally had no idea since they were based in California and never experienced it.
So that was a good thing, but after a short period, it was forgotten.
So to date, still nothing of substance.

I honestly do not see this ( in their eyes ) ‘children’s book’ being released making any impact on the motivation to revamp the current Attraction.
It is just yet another merchandise item to extort money from us Original fans who see this and feel a sudden nostalgic rush….and then open our wallets.

Disney needs to stop the merchandise pandering and commit to a serious rethink of the current Pavillon.
Merchandise would sell even better if there was actually an inspiring, imaginative Attraction there once more.
Build a worthwhile experience again and the bottom line will just take care of itself.


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Let's just have a "What If" moment..if they had built JII ver 1.0 at Tokyo Disney Do you think that they would have gone all out in merchandise and Dreamfinder would still have a presence.

It seemed to have worked when they brought Orange bird out there and his Kawaii like cuteness made him big and then several years later he returns back to MK...just imagine how it would have been if this happened..
 

UNCgolf

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The only ride in Epcot that is 95% of the time a walk on, and they won't redo it. It's the biggest joke in the park

Nemo is right there with it; Nemo may actually be a walk-on more than Imagination (right now Nemo has a 10 minute wait and Imagination has 20, but I'd guess they're both actually walk-ons).

At least Nemo is essentially a secondary draw for the Seas pavilion rather than the headliner, though.
 

Earlie the Pearlie

Well-Known Member
Nemo is right there with it; Nemo may actually be a walk-on more than Imagination (right now Nemo has a 10 minute wait and Imagination has 20, but I'd guess they're both actually walk-ons).

At least Nemo is essentially a secondary draw for the Seas pavilion rather than the headliner, though.
It also doesn’t hurt that the original Seas omnimover was essentially a transportation ride with aquarium views. If anything, Nemo is an improvement to make it more interesting. It was never really more than a walk-on, even at its thematic peak. JII, however, was a work of art. Having that pavilion be a walk-on is a travesty.
 

UNCgolf

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It also doesn’t hurt that the original Seas omnimover was essentially a transportation ride with aquarium views. If anything, Nemo is an improvement to make it more interesting. It was never really more than a walk-on, even at its thematic peak. JII, however, was a work of art. Having that pavilion be a walk-on is a travesty.

Oh I definitely disagree about that -- the original Seas omnimover was an integral part of the whole pavilion concept, and it was one of the better things Disney has ever built (the pavilion as a whole; not specifically the omnimover). To a kid, it was incredibly convincing that you'd actually traveled to an undersea base and the SeaCabs were part of that.

I'd agree that it's not quite as bad as JII, because that ride was so incredibly good, but the Nemo thing was terrible too (especially since there were so many ways they could have incorporated Nemo that would have actually made sense with the aquarium concept instead of just shoehorning in a random, bad ride). The Nemo idea (and the elimination of the pavilion's original concept as something more than simply an aquarium) wasn't very good to begin with, but the actual execution was terrible.
 

DreamfinderGuy

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Oh I definitely disagree about that -- the original Seas omnimover was an integral part of the whole pavilion concept, and it was one of the better things Disney has ever built (the pavilion as a whole; not specifically the omnimover). To a kid, it was incredibly convincing that you'd actually traveled to an undersea base and the SeaCabs were part of that.
Precisely this. The original Seas show had a magnificent build up to the Seabase Alpha reveal. The film and ride could not stand as their own attractions because they were never intended to be, they built up the whole which was greater than the sum of its parts. Nemo broke this and now the pavilion has no real narrative at all.
 

Hollywood 1939

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I'm curious if the Little Golden Book will use the verses of OLS from the original ride. "One chilling word, like shriek or killer...". Kids will love it!
 

Figments Friend

Well-Known Member
Yeah, I see three ways of looking at it….

One :
Tapping into the two Disney specific Park IPs that sell the most merch and have the two most dedicated fan bases.
A dream combo from a sales standpoint…ch-ching!
🤑

Two :
It’s official - Dreamfinder is dead.
He must be if he has taken up ‘residence’ in the Mansion!
💀

Three :
This is just a cool crossover piece of merch fans will love.
Enjoy the whimsy!
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Dragonman

Well-Known Member
Two :
It’s official - Dreamfinder is dead.
He must be if he has taken up ‘residence’ in the Mansion!
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I mean you’re not wrong lol
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The Rocketeer

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I think this upcoming TT 3.0 (and 2.0) is proof that sponsors can still work, though it could be an anomaly. But if Imagination got a new sponsor after Kodak left perhaps we would have had a new version of the ride 10 years ago (2010 was not a time when companies wanted to give free money to other companies though...). It seems like Disney is more willing to move forward with projects if they don't have to cover the entire bill. It makes me wonder if we'd still have more of the original pavilions if their respective sponsors like GE, MetLife etc. decided to stay on for another 10 years like GM did with WOM/TT.
 

Earlie the Pearlie

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Shame the AdventHealth tie-in didn't spawn a successful sponsorship campaign. Perhaps not the best choice. Maybe one day Imagination will find a new sponsor.
Perhaps (if Iger doesn’t sell) Apple might be a good sponsor. I think that Apple is similar to Kodak in that both have good relationships with Disney, and both sell things that can be used creatively. And an (80s) EPCOTified Apple Store would be pretty cool.
 

Bocabear

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Perhaps (if Iger doesn’t sell) Apple might be a good sponsor. I think that Apple is similar to Kodak in that both have good relationships with Disney, and both sell things that can be used creatively. And an (80s) EPCOTified Apple Store would be pretty cool.
Didn't they just do that when they refurbed Mouse Gear into "Creations"? LOL
 

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HOUSE OF MAGIC
Premium Member
Perhaps (if Iger doesn’t sell) Apple might be a good sponsor. I think that Apple is similar to Kodak in that both have good relationships with Disney, and both sell things that can be used creatively. And an (80s) EPCOTified Apple Store would be pretty cool.
I think the ideal sponsor would be Sherwin-Williams or Michael's Arts and Crafts or Crayola.
 

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