Eyes on EPCOT Center

[EpcotServo]

Yes! And you just said it! :lol: It does not fit there. At all. Decor fits, because it shows that something is being celebrated, and it adds to the atmosphere, not change it. Music fundamentlly changes the theme, setting, and mood for a area. You walk into EPCOT to Jingle Bells, that's not setting the tone for a day of exploration, futurism, and world culture. Same with the Beach Boys. It clashes. It makes the small overlay for XMas or FG become all encompassing. It's too much. How the "spirit" of EPCOT is found in California Music is beyond me. That's like spray painting "Flower and Garden" over everything in EPCOT.

If they want to put XMAS music in, do it by the FoN, by LoW(RIP!) , and in WS while walking out of the park. THERE, it works, because you see what we are celebrating. It just makes more sense.


Sheesh...conservatives? Liberals? Where the heck does this leave me?!:ROFLOL:

Which they do, and it's GREAT.
:lol:

Seriously, it's like arguing that Haunted Mansion Holiday doesn't work with New Orleans Square. It's just a point of contention but the music is considered holy at Epcot, nobody has a problem with it at the other parks. I love the Main Entrance loop as much as the next guy, but it's better that the music reflect the SPIRIT of the park in the SEASON, like I said. You have to let these be what they are, special, and do what they do best, create memories.

I guess I'm just breaking my usual Epcot-is-Holy thought process to illuminate that seasonal change is good. And as someone who lives here year round, this keeping everything the same year round gets tiring. The parks need to feel SPECIAL every season. Music is a big part of that.

And seriously, the Beach Boys was perfect. It encapsulated those formative seasons at Epcot, from the Weather, to the events, to the gardens, and brings back great memories.

Because EPCOT to me, isn't at it's best as a day long museum-piece, even though It's lofty and high ideals are worthy of such. But Epcot is it's best when I can go in for an afternoon and find a living place, a community where the music, displays, festivals, events, and attractions aren't a Bible that can't be touched, but rather Epcot for what it is, a place where I've seen Amazing things, I've been taken to fantastic worlds, I've seen new wonders come and go. I've met great people, and spent some amazing family nights walking around and enjoy concerts and festivals. And yes, the music when entering the park, while sometimes I disapprove, for the most part has helped Epcot be an important part of it's self, a Community.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Which they do, and it's GREAT.
:lol:

Seriously, it's like arguing that Haunted Mansion Holiday doesn't work with New Orleans Square. It's just a point of contention but the music is considered holy at Epcot, nobody has a problem with it at the other parks. I love the Main Entrance loop as much as the next guy, but it's better that the music reflect the SPIRIT of the park in the SEASON, like I said. You have to let these be what they are, special, and do what they do best, create memories.

I guess I'm just breaking my usual Epcot-is-Holy thought process to illuminate that seasonal change is good. And as someone who lives here year round, this keeping everything the same year round gets tiring. The parks need to feel SPECIAL every season. Music is a big part of that.

And seriously, the Beach Boys was perfect. It encapsulated those formative seasons at Epcot, from the Weather, to the events, to the gardens, and brings back great memories.

Because EPCOT to me, isn't at it's best as a day long museum-piece, even though It's lofty and high ideals are worthy of such. But Epcot is it's best when I can go in for an afternoon and find a living place, a community where the music, displays, festivals, events, and attractions aren't a Bible that can't be touched, but rather Epcot for what it is, a place where I've seen Amazing things, I've been taken to fantastic worlds, I've seen new wonders come and go. I've met great people, and spent some amazing family nights walking around and enjoy concerts and festivals. And yes, the music when entering the park, while sometimes I disapprove, for the most part has helped Epcot be an important part of it's self, a Community.

I can't disagree here. However, I think it can all be accomplished with decor and with the XMas Music IN THE RIGHT PLACES. Walking in first thing to EPCOT to "Jingle Bells" isn't that. It's EPCOT before it's Christmas.


Maybe if the XMAS loop was synthesized?:ROFLOL:

 

[EPCOTPluto]

Maybe if the XMAS loop was synthesized?

Manneheim Steamroller? :lookaroun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7i5LRiBgCU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhc2DSsDhG0

:sohappy:

 

[Future Guy]

Things from the 1980s that will always be cool:

• Mr. T
• The Goonies
• Optimus Prime

Things from the 1980s that should stay there:

• Leg warmers
• Big hair
• Richard Simmons
• Captain EO

And that's how I feel about that. Honestly, if they're going to bring back one aspect of EPCOT Center circa 1986, why does it have to be Captain EO?

 

[jt04]

I can't disagree here. However, I think it can all be accomplished with decor and with the XMas Music IN THE RIGHT PLACES. Walking in first thing to EPCOT to "Jingle Bells" isn't that. It's EPCOT before it's Christmas.


Maybe if the XMAS loop was synthesized?:ROFLOL:

It's Epcot before it's Christmas?Are you sure you even understand Epcot at all? Cause I'm thinking you have a vision that is the opposite of Walt's original vision and even what became of it later. It's Epcot not Brave New World.And I can never imagine Walt saying, "E.P.C.O.T. is bigger than Christmas".

 

[tirian]

Good grief, some of you would have died when Walt approved putting a gigantic star on top the Matterhorn, making it a Christmas tree-mountain.

Some things are done for the holidays because Christmas is bigger than a theme park.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

It's Epcot before it's Christmas?Are you sure you even understand Epcot at all? Cause I'm thinking you have a vision that is the opposite of Walt's original vision and even what became of it later. It's Epcot not Brave New World.And I can never imagine Walt saying, "E.P.C.O.T. is bigger than Christmas".

Thanks for the condescending and assuming post, jt!:kiss:


I meant in terms of THEME, oh vindicated one. :wave: You are in EPCOT at Christmas time. Simple. EPCOT's theme, ideas and beliefs come first....and during that time it can be enhanced by holiday decor, not CHANGED by Holiday music, which said alters the mood, theme and setting for a park.

Good grief, some of you would have died when Walt approved putting a gigantic star on top the Matterhorn, making it a Christmas tree-mountain.

Some things are done for the holidays because Christmas is bigger than a theme park.

That's actually a pretty good idea. :lol:....It doesn't change the mood of anything, just adds to it.


Agreed that Christmas is bigger than a theme park...I think that lends itself to decor that ADDS, not changes a integral theme.

Why do I care, anyway? *puts out Menorah *

 

[EpcotServo]

That's actually a pretty good idea. :lol:....It doesn't change the mood of anything, just adds to it.

Since when does a swiss mountain have a giant out-of-scale star on top?
:shrug:

Seriously, if that doesn't change the mood I don't know what does. :lol:

 

[Lee]

Good grief, some of you would have died when Walt approved putting a gigantic star on top the Matterhorn, making it a Christmas tree-mountain.

These days? Angry theme-nazis would storm the park!:lol:

 

[EpcotServo]

These days? Angry theme-nazis would storm the park!:lol:

Seriously...
:lol:

 

[MousDad]

^ You have to admit, it does make it look less like a forced-perspective masterpiece, and more like a birthday funnel cake for Jesus.



But I would never question Walt. [hides pitchfork :lookaroun]

 

[DMC-12]

These days? Angry theme-nazis would storm the park!:lol:

That does look awful :dazzle:

 

[wm49rs]

Things from the 1980s that will always be cool:

• Mr. T
• The Goonies
• Optimus Prime

Things from the 1980s that should stay there:

• Leg warmers
• Big hair
• Richard Simmons
• Captain EO

And that's how I feel about that. Honestly, if they're going to bring back one aspect of EPCOT Center circa 1986, why does it have to be Captain EO?

I'm not sure I get that call either. If the EO show was discontinued once before let's leave it in the past where it belongs. Find some new and exciting use for the space........

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Since when does a swiss mountain have a giant out-of-scale star on top?
:shrug:

Seriously, if that doesn't change the mood I don't know what does. :lol:

It's DECOR. Since when does a Concrete Castle in Florida have glittery ice on it? That ADDS to the Holiday experience. So does Walt's Star, which I don't mind, by the way. :wave:


Music changes the mood and the setting, and in a place that's very bound to the Peripheral Route to Persuasion, or in this case, thematic, the music totally alters what EPCOT, as a park, is about.
Same with Animal Kingdom.


DHS and MK can get away with it though. It's there that you DO want to change both mood and look.

 

[jt04]

It's DECOR. Since when does a Concrete Castle in Florida have glittery ice on it? That ADDS to the Holiday experience. So does Walt's Star, which I don't mind, by the way. :wave:


Music changes the mood and the setting, and in a place that's very bound to the Peripheral Route to Persuasion, or in this case, thematic, the music totally alters what EPCOT, as a park, is about.
Same with Animal Kingdom.


DHS and MK can get away with it though. It's there that you DO want to change both mood and look.

What do you think "Epcot as a park is about"? You keep saying that without a real explanation. Or maybe I don't want to know. :lol:

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

What do you think "Epcot as a park is about"? You keep saying that without a real explanation. Or maybe I don't want to know. :lol:

Futurism, world culture, entertainment with a purpose. You knew that.


I'm not saying ALL Christmas Music is out of place, by any means. It's just not appropriate in areas that are meant to convey the true essence and mood of the park, in my humble opinion.

 

[WDW Vacationer]

It's DECOR. Since when does a Concrete Castle in Florida have glittery ice on it? That ADDS to the Holiday experience. So does Walt's Star, which I don't mind, by the way. :wave:


Music changes the mood and the setting, and in a place that's very bound to the Peripheral Route to Persuasion, or in this case, thematic, the music totally alters what EPCOT, as a park, is about.
Same with Animal Kingdom.


DHS and MK can get away with it though. It's there that you DO want to change both mood and look.

Actually there is a story...:lookaroun

 

[Horizons1]

I'm not going to bother to backtrack, but I take it someone is complaining about Christmas music in Epcot? My advice to you "Get over it". Nuff said.

 

[EpcotServo]

In a related story that might tick off some of the hardcore, I've decided I'm for re purposing Test Track into Mythbusters Test Track. Basically retheme the attraction into dedicated to using science and technical know-how to see science in action, or inaction depending on the myth. Keep the layout, axe the GM thing, fill the queue with special effects replicating some of the myths, add much needed science and smart thinking values into the attraction, while punching up the fast paced ride with explosives and familar personalities. Then an entire post show where you get to get hands on with actual rumors and myths, cycling out as part of a more involved and active post show experience.

Plus all the cool Fire, Smoke, Liqud Oxygen, crashing, exploding, water, light, and darkness effects.

And Jamie, Adam, Tori, Grant, and Kari would be great hosts, lots of comedy and science there.

 

[hpyhnt 1000]

In a related story that might tick off some of the hardcore, I've decided I'm for re purposing Test Track into Mythbusters Test Track. Basically retheme the attraction into dedicated to using science and technical know-how to see science in action, or inaction depending on the myth. Keep the layout, axe the GM thing, fill the queue with special effects replicating some of the myths, add much needed science and smart thinking values into the attraction, while punching up the fast paced ride with explosives and familar personalities. Then an entire post show where you get to get hands on with actual rumors and myths, cycling out as part of a more involved and active post show experience.

Plus all the cool Fire, Smoke, Liqud Oxygen, crashing, exploding, water, light, and darkness effects.

And Jamie, Adam, Tori, Grant, and Kari would be great hosts, lots of comedy and science there.

How about instead of taking over Test Track, we adapt these concepts to take over the dead space that is Innoventions West? :shrug:

I agree with the idea of hands on sciencey stuff, but not to replace TT. However, I think something like that is the sort of thing that could make Innoventions interesting again.