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Eyes on EPCOT Center
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EpcotServo
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There's no Theme in Disney that's "stale". All of Disney Places are living and changing. A lighthearted Christmas loop is perfect for Future World, just like Studios kitschey Xmas tunes are great there too. Even Animal Kingdom gets some world beat christmas songs. Yea, I agree it'd be outta place in Adventureland or inside Mission Space, but the Main Entrence loops are supposed to be cheery and welcoming, even more so when it's a special time of the year. It's that kind of thinking that keeps WDW unchanging and stale. The same thinking that makes ours so much less special during any holiday that makes the other parks so magical...To paraphrase the Rolling Stones, "I shouted out Who Killed the Lights of Winter, when after all, it was you and me."
:lol:
EPCOTPluto
Well-Known Member
:sohappy::lookaroun
Perhaps Russell Brower should give a try on holiday songs next year for EPCOT...
Was this the purple spinner near the Electric Umbrella & Mouse Gear breezeway?
It returned a few days ago...
mickey2008.1
Well-Known Member
So from what im reading from different threads, its ok to keep classic/nostalgic christmas music in future world ( should be TSO), but keeping SM as a classic is taboo. I love the waffling.
Completely agree!
I also disagree that entrance loop music (and all music at the parks for that matter) are something to not worry about when you are there. On the contrary, the music is a huge part of the Disney experience. I can understand that if you visit all the time the change is nice, but for those of us that only come once a year, why not split the difference and make the music unique while still being festive?
Of course you can justify traditional sounding Christmas music at Epcot. It sounds nice. But why not go the extra 10% and make the music fit a little better?
Brian_B
Member
Traditional christmas music is out of phase with the theme of EPCOT. Snide comments aside, traditional christmas songs aren't very indicative or symbolic of progress or the future. It's just TDO vomiting forced holiday cheer on every square inch of park space. Subtlety is a lost art in WDW these days, in every respect, not just the whole holiday thing.
Oh, and using this symbol:
along with phrases that were relevant 10 years ago among teenage girls ("please") does not automatically make your post insightful, righteous, or clever.
Oh, and using this symbol:
along with phrases that were relevant 10 years ago among teenage girls ("please") does not automatically make your post insightful, righteous, or clever.
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
Are you coherent?Are you saying there won't be Christmas music in the future?
Please
I never alluded to that. I just said that it didn't really fit the greater theme of the land.
I again, disagree. They can DECORATE for the Holidays. That ADDS to the atmosphere, not change it, like the music does.
This is the equivalent of taking the score to "Star Wars" (or any other beautifully scored movie) and putting "Jingle Bells" in during a action scene. It changes the connotation that the place has.
WDW Vacationer
Active Member
As of the 24th it was missing.
Exprcoofto
New Member
As of several days ago it was back, but before that it was gone. Nothing changed with it either, if someone was going to ask that.
EpcotServo
Well-Known Member
Oh, and using this symbol:
:lol:
Absolutely not...We're just talking about the MAIN ENTRANCE. The Music is important here only in that it be welcoming and encapsulate the feel of the park at the time. During the Holidays it should feel special. Now sometimes I'll agree, like when it was princess music for some reason. Beach Boys during Flower and Garden was perfect though. Same with Christmas music. It's about emotion, not theology...Sometimes it doesn't feel right, sometimes, like Christmas, it does.
:shrug:
jt04
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djkidkaz
Well-Known Member
Gotta disagree. At first I was with you, but then you reminded me of the Beach Boys music and how I felt when I heard it in EPCOT. :hurl: In my opinion, it just didn't work and felt awkward. Walking through I kept picturing Typhoon Lagoon in my head and it took me out of the "EPCOT mood".
I think it works in the Magic Kingdom entrance because it is supposed to be a towns Main Street. It works in Animal Kingdom because they are supposed to be villages and the Studios works because its expected that a studio would decorate and play music during the holidays. To me EPCOT is the only park that it just doesn't work well in because you don't get that sense that people live ( ie. Main Street USA or Discovery Island ) or work ( ie. the Studios ) in Future World and would come out to celebrate. They could have xmas music from around the world in the World Showcase as long as it was from each specific country.
EPCOTPluto
Well-Known Member
November 28 Update - If No One Minds The Random Update! Pt 1
Didn't really want to start a new thread, so here are some random tidbits from Saturday...
The new Festival Guide for Holidays Around the World, EPCOT map & a modified Times Guide including a Public Notice bit on how to stay flu-free during the holidays:
The Main Entrance topiaries this year. Thankfully the Stitch topiary isn't among them. Oh, and the trees twinkle at night.
Didn't get a good pic, but at House of Innoventions, the lights are on inside behind black curtains. Maybe they are working on the interior now... At least there are some rare Christmas decorations outside the door.
More Vinylmation craziness, only this time, they try to decorate with the WS tree. I really only like the tin itself - is that wrong? :lookaroun
OK, Fountain of Nations, with the Joyful! preparations onstage, does not perform any shows, of course. However, I asked in Tip Board if they would have any fountain shows just in case. I was told that at 6pm, the Fountain begins its quarterly shows. It was not known, however, if the music from LoW would play. I would assume yes, but I can't exactly confirm it. Hopefully someone else would...
Here are several pics from Joyful! A Gospel Celebration. I have to admit that the show itself is nice. I noted a good number of people enjoying the rhythm. But it is certainly not a replacement for LoW.
Didn't really want to start a new thread, so here are some random tidbits from Saturday...
The new Festival Guide for Holidays Around the World, EPCOT map & a modified Times Guide including a Public Notice bit on how to stay flu-free during the holidays:
The Main Entrance topiaries this year. Thankfully the Stitch topiary isn't among them. Oh, and the trees twinkle at night.
Didn't get a good pic, but at House of Innoventions, the lights are on inside behind black curtains. Maybe they are working on the interior now... At least there are some rare Christmas decorations outside the door.
More Vinylmation craziness, only this time, they try to decorate with the WS tree. I really only like the tin itself - is that wrong? :lookaroun
OK, Fountain of Nations, with the Joyful! preparations onstage, does not perform any shows, of course. However, I asked in Tip Board if they would have any fountain shows just in case. I was told that at 6pm, the Fountain begins its quarterly shows. It was not known, however, if the music from LoW would play. I would assume yes, but I can't exactly confirm it. Hopefully someone else would...
Here are several pics from Joyful! A Gospel Celebration. I have to admit that the show itself is nice. I noted a good number of people enjoying the rhythm. But it is certainly not a replacement for LoW.
EPCOTPluto
Well-Known Member
November 28 Update - If No One Minds The Random Update! Pt 2
Nice to see the Egyptian Duck again!
#%!&* indeed!
OK, so the tree isn't that bad by itself. But the decorations at EPCOT are pretty limited as from previous years. Heck, the tree never even got the wooden presents! And meanwhile at DHS, the Nativity scene has the Baby Jesus in his cradle whereas it is not until Dec. 25 in which He is displayed.
However, the Storyteller sets have new signs that explain a country's particular culture during the holidays.
The Christmas tree is up in AA, along with the gingerbread house. Oh, and souvenir mugs from EPCOT do not seem to exist anymore. Instead, they are pushing a pre-baked Gingerbread House Kit.
Here's a sign for this year's narrators:
Interesting to see this rope decor as CMs load guests in the Candlelight Processional Standby line.
Had to leave early for Osbourne, so perhaps a last ride would do. Or maybe not. The extended line from SSE turns out to be pretty much used...
And one final look at the entrance topiaries. Yes, Mickey is still naked.
Interestingly, many WS pavilions did not have many Christmas decorations at all. In fact, I recall Morocco & Japan not having any related holiday decorations. France and Germany were focused on garlands and wreaths. In other words, yes, the decor was dull this year.
And over at DHS, many poinsettias once adorning the entrance were MIA. Not to mention the tree had some lights rather short-circuited.
And that's my update! Hope it was enjoyable & not too disruptive. Now back to your regular program schedule.
EDIT: Anyone saw this? HKDL now uses the EPCOT tree lighting music over there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgrDMeuVWXI
Nice to see the Egyptian Duck again!
#%!&* indeed!
OK, so the tree isn't that bad by itself. But the decorations at EPCOT are pretty limited as from previous years. Heck, the tree never even got the wooden presents! And meanwhile at DHS, the Nativity scene has the Baby Jesus in his cradle whereas it is not until Dec. 25 in which He is displayed.
However, the Storyteller sets have new signs that explain a country's particular culture during the holidays.
The Christmas tree is up in AA, along with the gingerbread house. Oh, and souvenir mugs from EPCOT do not seem to exist anymore. Instead, they are pushing a pre-baked Gingerbread House Kit.
Here's a sign for this year's narrators:
Interesting to see this rope decor as CMs load guests in the Candlelight Processional Standby line.
Had to leave early for Osbourne, so perhaps a last ride would do. Or maybe not. The extended line from SSE turns out to be pretty much used...
And one final look at the entrance topiaries. Yes, Mickey is still naked.
Interestingly, many WS pavilions did not have many Christmas decorations at all. In fact, I recall Morocco & Japan not having any related holiday decorations. France and Germany were focused on garlands and wreaths. In other words, yes, the decor was dull this year.
And over at DHS, many poinsettias once adorning the entrance were MIA. Not to mention the tree had some lights rather short-circuited.
And that's my update! Hope it was enjoyable & not too disruptive. Now back to your regular program schedule.
EDIT: Anyone saw this? HKDL now uses the EPCOT tree lighting music over there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgrDMeuVWXI
Figment82
Well-Known Member
Nice to see the Egyptian Duck again!
Hooray! Muty is still around - I haven't seen him for awhile. Glad to know he's doing okay.
EPCOTPluto
Well-Known Member
Muty? :lookaroun Never knew he had a name... :lol:Hooray! Muty is still around - I haven't seen him for awhile. Glad to know he's doing okay.
Figment82
Well-Known Member
Lol, that's my name for him - it's short for "Mutant Duck." Most guests think he's just an random looking duck, instead of the Egyptian Goose that he really is, so I call him that for fun.
ChrisFL
Premium Member
Have Morocco and Japan had decorations before? I don't remember them having any, since they're Shinto (Buddhist) and Muslim primarily
EpcotServo
Well-Known Member
Spectacle of Lights has it's Baby Jesus up the entire duration of the show, so everybody get's to see the Jeebus.
And yes, Japan, Morocco, and some others don't really have Christmas decorations.
And yes, Japan, Morocco, and some others don't really have Christmas decorations.