Luminous did it correctly! Never Understood the Fake Stop In Harm's Finale!!
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News EPCOT's Harmonious to be replaced with new nighttime spectacular Luminous
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I hope then it's able to get into a good college!!
Andrew25
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I love a good conspiracy and I think Disney wanted to have fans go into it with lower expectations than Harmonious. They pushed Harmonious hard, and we all know how that went.
That, and budget, and a short timeline from announcing a date and its debut, and the anxiety of not knowing if they can make the date. They were welding just a week before the debut.
Actually, it makes sense to soft peddle a new attraction. Wait to see if it's a winner before spending big bucks advertising it. If they're lucky, word of mouth will lessen the need for advertising. Disney can play the long game and hype a new attraction months after its debut.
Andrew25
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Also, marketing was tied with all the Disney 100 stuff. And with how late in the year this debuted, there was no need to push it as most trips were probably booked for December/Holidays by the time they had a good idea of when it'll debut.
If we (hopefully) get MSEP or something else this year, we could see them do a massive nighttime entertainment push... but time is running out to market it for the summer.
Fat Chance!! But I'm no Insider..........
HEA & DE every night(besides July 3-4th of course)would be an interesting look for MK, and not a Bad One IMO.....
Andrew25
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Seems like the cheaper route. I don't hate Enchantment... as long as HEA is running lol
Both looked Fantastic!! No Tink in DE because of Rain but still......
Disgruntled Walt
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From the amount of times it's been in B-Mode, looks like it's taking a gap year!
Figments Friend
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Saw the show for the first time the other night at the Park.
I was spoiler free, did not read or watch anything prior to my visit as I wanted to view it with a clear head.
And…..
Well, it was…okay.
(Spoiler free review)
Positives were the selection of pyro, and some of the clever ways it is presented.
Negatives are the giant center barge.
It was my understanding this was not supposed to be left out on the lagoon during the daytime?
Perhaps it was just the day I was there..?
Music was okay, but the theme and presentation just didn’t hit me the way I was hoping.
It’s almost like it is trying too hard …and it falls flat for me.
A couple of moments, but…..
….for me, another one and done.
Pyro was nice, I will say that.
Nice job, Pyro team!
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I was spoiler free, did not read or watch anything prior to my visit as I wanted to view it with a clear head.
And…..
Well, it was…okay.
(Spoiler free review)
Positives were the selection of pyro, and some of the clever ways it is presented.
Negatives are the giant center barge.
It was my understanding this was not supposed to be left out on the lagoon during the daytime?
Perhaps it was just the day I was there..?
Music was okay, but the theme and presentation just didn’t hit me the way I was hoping.
It’s almost like it is trying too hard …and it falls flat for me.
A couple of moments, but…..
….for me, another one and done.
Pyro was nice, I will say that.
Nice job, Pyro team!
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SaucyBoy
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The best part of the show for me, heck I'm getting chills just replaying that moment in my head.
aladdin2007
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Agree, for me the opening is the best and well done, love that music. But the rest just takes odd turns and a funeral filler. A over produced song in the finale trying too hard, plus the forced narration. Cut all that back a bit and would be better. Too much screeching singing, sometimes music tells the story without having them shout at you and pushing some narratives. Will leave it at that. Visually the whole thing is pretty good and nicely done. And the bolded above? Not understanding this at all, the whole point of this production was so there would not be barges in the lagoon for the main chunk of the day. Granted these aren't as bad but here we go again, this was not how it was suppose to be.
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Figments Friend
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Yeah, I was very surprised to see the ‘hulking central mass’ of barges in the lagoon when I arrived at Epcot on Wednesday.
And I was there in the earlier part of the day.
Perhaps these are moved out earlier then the ‘old time schedules’ I remember from past days?
I have not been following this thread after the show began simply to remain spoiler free, so perhaps this is standard ops now.
But my understanding was these were supposed to be moved on and off stage at given times….not remain out all day.
Hoping this was just a one off and these are not out there for great lengths of time on the water during the daytime.
It really does kill the views and spoil the visual representation of the united counties around the lagoon.
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And I was there in the earlier part of the day.
Perhaps these are moved out earlier then the ‘old time schedules’ I remember from past days?
I have not been following this thread after the show began simply to remain spoiler free, so perhaps this is standard ops now.
But my understanding was these were supposed to be moved on and off stage at given times….not remain out all day.
Hoping this was just a one off and these are not out there for great lengths of time on the water during the daytime.
It really does kill the views and spoil the visual representation of the united counties around the lagoon.
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TheEPCOTHistorian
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IIRC, the decision to not move the barges daily came from ops, who didn't want Holiday crowd flow to be disrupted by the bridge opening in WSL. Should go back to a regular schedule once crowds die down again.
Brian
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Indeed. It takes about 15 minutes from start to finish to get all the barges out, which is an eternity to guests who get caught at the bridge right as they're starting.
Chef idea Mickey`=
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I did! I liked both... but Luminious has a more surprising part instead the darkness it's the lagoon aerial firework shots!
James Alucobond
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From streams, Italy seems good if you want the view back toward Spaceship Earth for when it activates toward the end. Otherwise, the front half of the showcase probably feels a bit closer, but there aren't many bad angles for this unless you're directly behind a lagoon island.
Vinnie Mac
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I'm not an insider but I'm 100% sure that's exactly why we didn't see marketing for it. For you to market a show as the biggest entertainment offering your company has offered and then making a Disney+ special based around it WITH live performances from highly well known names just for it to "sparkle into history" in less than 2 years is really embarrassing and expensive.
I also think that Harmonious was a bigger deal to begin with anyway. It was the first true ROE replacement meaning the first new major Epcot show since the beginning of the century, it also happened to be (by pure circumstance) the first new WDW nighttime show to debut post COVID. Not to mention people on this board and on distwitter watched this show get developed for well over a year and half coupled with YEARS of rumors and speculation beforehand. Harmonious had A LOT of attention on it from the moment it was even announced
I imagine Disney wanted to let things with LSOU play out naturally with word of mouth marketing. Seems to be working okay considering the fact that many seem to enjoy it