News EPCOT's Harmonious to be replaced with new nighttime spectacular Luminous

[SoFloMagic]

The only thing working against it is the limited viewing area, should be outstanding if not epic

The other thing working against it is history tells us it will be a disjointed clip show of universal movies.

 

[JoeCamel]

The other thing working against it is history tells us it will be a disjointed clip show of universal movies.

Celebrate your roots

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

I'm curious what happened to the flame throwers, they had them defined and sequenced in grandMA3 during the testing video.

Huh ?

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

I feel like there is something that can be added to it that could make it signficantly better. Don't get me wrong, it's already very good. It has the Illuminations-eque pre-show music, it doesn't ruin sightlines, it has wonderful pyro design (some of the best seen on that lagoon since ROE), the two original songs are wonderful. Not to mention people actually like this show. Casual guest love it and even some ROE diehards are finding a soft spot for it.

But even then I just feel like there is something that could push it from a B+ show to an A+ show. Maybe it's an all original soundtrack, maybe it's drones. Maybe a fire barge or a globe? I don't know!

Luminous tried to do the Illuminations thing but since it's middle is all about IP it is not in the same league that made Illuminations ROE a sucess. lf you want to compare IP it lacks energy that Epcot Forever and Harmonious has for the middle portion... Illuminations was powerful from start to finish just by the score, purpose, meaning, showcase.. so I'd stand that Luminious to me is not powerful in the middle... the story of life should be strong from start to finish. They tried to do hug me moments and time to cry in a way we don't want to..if we want to hug and cry should be by how the show impacts us, not by an IP selection and when you should.

 

[trainplane3]

Luminous has added ‘Osaka 3AM’ by Ooyy to the Pre-Show playlist. The other songs have been trimmed to accommodate.

That's been there since debut night. If it wasn't debut night, it was within a few nights later.

I'm curious what happened to the flame throwers, they had them defined and sequenced in grandMA3 during the testing video.

@wdwmagic thinks there could be more coming at some point.

 

[THEMEPARKPIONEER]

Meanwhile over at USO…

https://x.com/bioreconstruct/status/1746307815273034115?s=46&t=K28Apbf11j8npyzWI1QkaA

I do like Luminous but visually I have to wonder if USOs new show is going to blow Luminous out of the water.

I was thinking the same thing, really want to see what they do. The last show was good, they weren’t quite there yet but there getting closer and closer.

 

[gerarar]

There's been pyro cuts happening recently to the finale of Luminous.

Essentially sequences that had 6 small shells were slashed in half to just 3 or 4 shells.
The airtime on the crosette comets were reduced, making their effect less noticeable imo.

Sad to see these cuts (already) happening to the show when it's barely a month old at this point. Hopefully it's not budget related, but not looking good regardless..

Here's a comparison video I made showing the various cuts over the past couple weeks.


And here's some timestamps:
0:21 "Sound, it's in all that we are" – green crosette comets have a shorter burn/airtime (Changed around Jan 3)
0:33 "It's the beating of our hearts" – 6 green shells to 3 shells (Changed around Dec 29)
0:43 "...every beat aligns" – 6 red shells cut to 4 shells (Changed around Jan 10)
0:52 "The echo of our hearts" – 6 green shells cut to 3 shells (Changed around Dec 29)
1:19 "Feel it in the beat" – red crosette comets have a shorter burn/airtime (Changed around Jan 3)

 

[Starship824]

There's been pyro cuts happening recently to the finale of Luminous.

Essentially sequences that had 6 small shells were slashed in half to just 3 or 4 shells.
The airtime on the crosette comets were reduced, making their effect less noticeable imo.

Sad to see these cuts (already) happening to the show when it's barely a month old at this point. Hopefully it's not budget related, but not looking good regardless..

Here's a comparison video I made showing the various cuts over the past couple weeks.


And here's some timestamps:
0:21 "Sound, it's in all that we are" – green crosette comets have a shorter burn/airtime (Changed around Jan 3)
0:33 "It's the beating of our hearts" – 6 green shells to 3 shells (Changed around Dec 29)
0:43 "...every beat aligns" – 6 red shells cut to 4 shells (Changed around Jan 10)
0:52 "The echo of our hearts" – 6 green shells cut to 3 shells (Changed around Dec 29)
1:19 "Feel it in the beat" – red crosette comets have a shorter burn/airtime (Changed around Jan 3)

I'm not surprised. This is current Disney sadly.

 

[Vinnie Mac]

This is what the finale of Luminous looked like tonight lol

 

[Vinnie Mac]

There's been pyro cuts happening recently to the finale of Luminous.

Essentially sequences that had 6 small shells were slashed in half to just 3 or 4 shells.
The airtime on the crosette comets were reduced, making their effect less noticeable imo.

Sad to see these cuts (already) happening to the show when it's barely a month old at this point. Hopefully it's not budget related, but not looking good regardless..

Here's a comparison video I made showing the various cuts over the past couple weeks.


And here's some timestamps:
0:21 "Sound, it's in all that we are" – green crosette comets have a shorter burn/airtime (Changed around Jan 3)
0:33 "It's the beating of our hearts" – 6 green shells to 3 shells (Changed around Dec 29)
0:43 "...every beat aligns" – 6 red shells cut to 4 shells (Changed around Jan 10)
0:52 "The echo of our hearts" – 6 green shells cut to 3 shells (Changed around Dec 29)
1:19 "Feel it in the beat" – red crosette comets have a shorter burn/airtime (Changed around Jan 3)

Disney got a lot of nerve making pyro cuts to this show considering the fact that the whole point of a traditional firework show is that the pyro IS the main appeal of the show. This is like taking away pyro from Illuminations like why??

 

[Brian]

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This is what the finale of Luminous looked like tonight lol

It was a wee bit misty here tonight

 

[Squishy]

There's been pyro cuts happening recently to the finale of Luminous.

Essentially sequences that had 6 small shells were slashed in half to just 3 or 4 shells.
The airtime on the crosette comets were reduced, making their effect less noticeable imo.

Sad to see these cuts (already) happening to the show when it's barely a month old at this point. Hopefully it's not budget related, but not looking good regardless..

Here's a comparison video I made showing the various cuts over the past couple weeks.


And here's some timestamps:
0:21 "Sound, it's in all that we are" – green crosette comets have a shorter burn/airtime (Changed around Jan 3)
0:33 "It's the beating of our hearts" – 6 green shells to 3 shells (Changed around Dec 29)
0:43 "...every beat aligns" – 6 red shells cut to 4 shells (Changed around Jan 10)
0:52 "The echo of our hearts" – 6 green shells cut to 3 shells (Changed around Dec 29)
1:19 "Feel it in the beat" – red crosette comets have a shorter burn/airtime (Changed around Jan 3)

This part seemed to have 5 shells today, perhaps some firing issue going on?

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

Disney got a lot of nerve making pyro cuts to this show considering the fact that the whole point of a traditional firework show is that the pyro IS the main appeal of the show. This is like taking away pyro from Illuminations like why??

Illumination's ROE has reduced some changes even removing pyro sound in a particular section but that was over the years. This is as if you cut off stuff immediately right after the millennium celebration in January 2000. How difference was the 2000 shows vs 2017...

 

[gerarar]

Disney got a lot of nerve making pyro cuts to this show considering the fact that the whole point of a traditional firework show is that the pyro IS the main appeal of the show. This is like taking away pyro from Illuminations like why??

If these are permanent cuts, then they sure are cutting little at a time and in increments to make it not as noticeable, compared to Epcot Forever and Harmonious when they received theirs pyro cuts all at the same time.

This part seemed to have 5 shells today, perhaps some firing issue going on?
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That's interesting because I watched a bunch of streams from like the 10th to the 13th and they all had 4 shells.
All these supposed cutbacks also come from the 6 main barges too, and they work for the other sequences of 6 shells or 3 shells. Guess it's in flux for now..

 

[Figments Friend]

Epcot was looking spooky tonight for the show.
The smoke from the pyro in the opening sequence blew in from across the lagoon and fogged up the entire area.
It was so thick you really could not see much of the show.

This is a shot of folks leaving not even half way through the show as you could not see very much except the higher height pyro.

A bit of a bust, so I was glad I was able to view it earlier this week.

 

[Figments Friend]

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This is what the finale of Luminous looked like tonight lol

Yep, I was there tonight as well.

Park looked like it was on fire!



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[𝕴𝖒𝖆𝖌𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖊𝖗97]

There's been pyro cuts happening recently to the finale of Luminous.

Essentially sequences that had 6 small shells were slashed in half to just 3 or 4 shells.
The airtime on the crosette comets were reduced, making their effect less noticeable imo.

Sad to see these cuts (already) happening to the show when it's barely a month old at this point. Hopefully it's not budget related, but not looking good regardless..

Here's a comparison video I made showing the various cuts over the past couple weeks.


And here's some timestamps:
0:21 "Sound, it's in all that we are" – green crosette comets have a shorter burn/airtime (Changed around Jan 3)
0:33 "It's the beating of our hearts" – 6 green shells to 3 shells (Changed around Dec 29)
0:43 "...every beat aligns" – 6 red shells cut to 4 shells (Changed around Jan 10)
0:52 "The echo of our hearts" – 6 green shells cut to 3 shells (Changed around Dec 29)
1:19 "Feel it in the beat" – red crosette comets have a shorter burn/airtime (Changed around Jan 3)

I salute your investigations!

This is too bad. Disney has a cost-cutting cancer.

 

[gerarar]

I salute your investigations!

This is too bad. Disney has a cost-cutting cancer.

Haha I watch too many livestreams of the nighttime spectaculars and it's hard to not notice this kind of stuff all the time (like the recent F! comet pyro swap).
Better to keep a record of it and jot down my thoughts/research than just keep it in my head lol.

Also been thinking of doing a HEA soon since the pyro in that show has been changing so much the past month

 

[GhostHost1000]

There's been pyro cuts happening recently to the finale of Luminous.

Essentially sequences that had 6 small shells were slashed in half to just 3 or 4 shells.
The airtime on the crosette comets were reduced, making their effect less noticeable imo.

Sad to see these cuts (already) happening to the show when it's barely a month old at this point. Hopefully it's not budget related, but not looking good regardless..

Here's a comparison video I made showing the various cuts over the past couple weeks.


And here's some timestamps:
0:21 "Sound, it's in all that we are" – green crosette comets have a shorter burn/airtime (Changed around Jan 3)
0:33 "It's the beating of our hearts" – 6 green shells to 3 shells (Changed around Dec 29)
0:43 "...every beat aligns" – 6 red shells cut to 4 shells (Changed around Jan 10)
0:52 "The echo of our hearts" – 6 green shells cut to 3 shells (Changed around Dec 29)
1:19 "Feel it in the beat" – red crosette comets have a shorter burn/airtime (Changed around Jan 3)

I thought the finale needed more... now they are cutting it some. ouch

 

[Starship824]

Haha I watch too many livestreams of the nighttime spectaculars and it's hard to not notice this kind of stuff all the time (like the recent F! comet pryo swap).
Better to keep a record of it and jot down my thoughts/research than just keep it in my head lol.

Also been thinking of doing a HEA soon since the pyro in that show has been changing so much the past month

I was noticing them too, I just didn't want to bring myself to point it out, but yeah HEA definitely has cheaper pyro than it used to and it should be pointed out.