News EPCOT's Harmonious to be replaced with new nighttime spectacular Luminous

[mattpeto]

WOC is set up in a pool basically with a concrete bottom - WS lagoon is, while constructed by humans, still has a natural bottom and the infrastructure would get tangled up with plant life and would be an absolute nightmare to maintain

And they still have to figure out something at AK. Just have a nice amphitheater that's sitting dormant.

Now that they have 3 legit nighttime spectaculars, they should turn their attention at AK next. I know why WoC shouldn't work at AK without a costly infrastructure investment, but I'd like a show like that. Hopefully some of the fountain tech they are using with Luminous provides some options.

 

[ToTBellHop]

And they still have to figure out something at AK. Just have a nice amphitheater that's sitting dormant.

Now that they have 3 legit nighttime spectaculars, they should turn their attention at AK next. I know why WoC shouldn't work at AK without a costly infrastructure investment, but I'd like a show like that. Hopefully some of the fountain tech they are using with Luminous provides some options.

I thought RoL had some impressive fountain visuals but they didn’t cooperate with wind. Perhaps Luminous works better even with a breeze because you aren’t so close to the fountains?

Fountains with drones sounds like the best option for DAK.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

And they still have to figure out something at AK. Just have a nice amphitheater that's sitting dormant.

Now that they have 3 legit nighttime spectaculars, they should turn their attention at AK next. I know why WoC shouldn't work at AK without a costly infrastructure investment, but I'd like a show like that. Hopefully some of the fountain tech they are using with Luminous provides some options.

I wonder if they could do smaller shows there - along the line near of the various beacons of magic shows they do on SEE at Epcot

This way don't have to deal with major logistics of people getting into and out of theater but more come and go .... Maybe have some good and drink booths up there. Basically make it more of a "hang out spot" with some light entertainment, but still something to do in the evenings, vs big show

 

[Andrew25]

I have a hot take, and I'm not a fan of it, but it's unfortunately true.

Nighttime shows don't work well without IP unless you focus on Pyro like with Illuminations.

A DAK nighttime show needs an original intro/ending... but with IP filler. If DAK can't use pyro, it needs to depend on IP to draw people in.

 

[StantonZ]

And they still have to figure out something at AK. Just have a nice amphitheater that's sitting dormant.

Now that they have 3 legit nighttime spectaculars, they should turn their attention at AK next. I know why WoC shouldn't work at AK without a costly infrastructure investment, but I'd like a show like that. Hopefully some of the fountain tech they are using with Luminous provides some options.

I think a WoC type show should be in AK...no matter what the cost. I would consider it a permanent addition (similar to CA), so the cost could be amortized over a long period.

 

[doctornick]

Fountains with drones sounds like the best option for DAK.

Yeah this my take. Plus fire. I think you could make a decent animal themed show with those elements.

 

[doctornick]

I wonder if they could do smaller shows there - along the line near of the various beacons of magic shows they do on SEE at Epcot

They already have Awakenings on the ToL - which is quite good IMHO - so you’d want to have something pretty distinct from that.

 

[EvilChameleon]

Now that we have seemingly fixed the EPCOT nighttime entertainment, let's find a way that DHS can use that big launch pad they spent millions on and not have to close the road next to it.

 

[marni1971]

Now that we have seemingly fixed the EPCOT nighttime entertainment, let's find a way that DHS can use that big launch pad they spent millions on and not have to close the road next to it.

Fixed? Or thrown together?

The latter is unlikely to happen.

 

[James Alucobond]

Fixed? Or thrown together?

Hard to care too much about the timeline when the ultimate result is still better than the overconsidered, overbuilt monstrosity that preceded it and seems infinitely more attuned to the park even if it didn’t dodge the IP bullet.

 

[marni1971]

Hard to care too much about the timeline when the ultimate result is still better than the overconsidered, overbuilt monstrosity that preceded it and seems infinitely more attuned to the park even if it didn’t dodge the IP bullet.

You’re right. I should have said better than before, but ideally a place holder for a real Epcot show. Kind of like a 25B.

 

[TTA94]

You’re right. I should have said better than before, but ideally a place holder for a real Epcot show. Kind of like a 25B.

Do you anticipate Luminous being around for awhile?

 

[Andrew25]

Do you anticipate Luminous being around for awhile?

yes, it's good, has its problems but there's 0 need to replace it

it's not perfect, but it's the best we can get with modern disney/epcot

 

[jrhwdw]

You’re right. I should have said better than before, but ideally a place holder for a real Epcot show. Kind of like a 25B.

I25B held it's own!

 

[marni1971]

I25B held it's own!

It did. It was also unplanned and used to dispell the criticism of 25A until RoE could premiere.

 

[Vinnie Mac]

Fixed? Or thrown together?

The latter is unlikely to happen.

I wouldn't say thrown together. It's an impressive production that addresses a lot of the problems its predecessor had while also being its own thing. The general public is enjoying it, disney parks fans enjoying it, heck even Epcot/Illuminations die hards are enjoying it.

I don't think it's the permanent solution but i think it's a win that will last us for several years and it's a huge positive step towards what I believe will one day be the modern day illuminations.

 

[marni1971]

one day be the modern day illuminations.

Now we’re talking.

For the record we’ve chosen not to visit Epcot next year, but it looks like I’m going to see this show (thanks to a friend) which is something I’m good with. As they say.

 

[Vinnie Mac]

Do you anticipate Luminous being around for awhile?

My honest realistic prediction with all things considered (unless something crazy and unpredictable happens) is that Luminous will exist as it does now with little changes until 2030 at the earliest and 2033 at the latest. In that time it will definitely build itself a a positive snd memorable status

I don't think it has a 20 year run out of it and honestly i don't know if any show ever will again. It's extremely rare for that to happen.

 

[trainplane3]

Now we’re talking.

For the record we’ve chosen not to visit Epcot next year, but it looks like I’m going to see this show (thanks to a friend) which is something I’m good with.

It really does feel like the right direction for a real Illuminations show (which it still isn't). While you probably won't enjoy the content, the shows pyro and other effects are really great. Those barges they "threw together" are really good and a perfect fit for a Epcot show. The mini barges are awesome and make the show feel huge. The pyro tower is spectacular in person.

The only way I could imagine an improvement of the hardware is do a combo of an Earth globe and the pyro tower. The show is building up to the tower but tries to hide it. It'd be neat to really make it shine, if there was more to it then an ominous structure.

The bones of this show are truly excellent.

 

[JD80]

I wouldn't be surprised if the platform of this show is around in 10 or 15 years. The tech is impressive.

The only thing I'd like to see more of is incorporation of the pavilions with lights and projections. It would be great if each country had its own mini show within the larger show.