News EPCOT's Harmonious to be replaced with new nighttime spectacular Luminous

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
I'd really like to hear the internal talks on this show. They have to know this show needs to be a hit after the flop of Harmonious, right? I don't think they can afford any pyro cuts. This thing will probably need all the wow factor in the world to ensure people come to Epcot at night.
They won’t cut pyro now. They’ll cut pyro after a year, as usual, and hope we don’t notice but our team of staff mathematicians will be ready.
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TTA94

Well-Known Member
I'd really like to hear the internal talks on this show. They have to know this show needs to be a hit after the flop of Harmonious, right? I don't think they can afford any pyro cuts. This thing will probably need all the wow factor in the world to ensure people come to Epcot at night.

Not to be thinking negative but a part of me feels like they are not aiming at a Wowing or to impress anyone as much as having a “good enough” show. But that’s sadly Disneys mentality now a days so 🤷‍♂️.
 

gerarar

Premium Member
Hopefully no last minute cuts happen.
Every new fireworks show since like HEA has had pyro cuts before its official debut.

I'm convinced the pyro teams know ahead of time that cuts are likely going to happen, so they extra load up on the pyro and sequences in the programming software they use, so when they execute it during tests, any cuts made don't affect the show much.

Some examples.
HEA had extra castle pyro during the villians segment that was seen during testing but missing on debut.
Harmonius and EF same thing as above.
MWCTF had extra perimeter shells during testing that were eventually cut also.
 

THEMEPARKPIONEER

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They won’t cut pyro now. They’ll cut pyro after a year, as usual, and hope we don’t notice but our team of staff mathematicians will be ready.
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They'll make a big pyro cut by bringing back a scaled down version Reflections of Earth, hype it up and grab as much money as they can. You see what happened with Spectromagic MSEP was a huge cut compared to Spectro.
 

Epcot82Guy

Well-Known Member
They'll make a big pyro cut by bringing back a scaled down version Reflections of Earth, hype it up and grab as much money as they can. You see what happened with Spectromagic MSEP was a huge cut compared to Spectro.

I won't lie. I would renew my pass for that. Because even it would be better than some of the recent offerings. 😆
 

jrhwdw

Well-Known Member
They'll make a big pyro cut by bringing back a scaled down version Reflections of Earth, hype it up and grab as much money as they can. You see what happened with Spectromagic MSEP was a huge cut compared to Spectro.
All that happened with Spectro is it didn't get the TLC and the Referb that was planned.... Makes me wonder what's going on with MSEP/PTN right now..........

MSEP wasn't a cut in 1999 since Spectro returned in 2001. And I don't believe MK was saving any money in 2010 when we had MSEP and 180 Prim. Fireworks every night that Summer. I'm not going to lie, what happened after 2010 for Spectro is Tragic. But, I don't believe that was MK's Real Plan on IOA's Potter Opening Day. And MSEP did have a Successful Run until Oct 2016. We all know what happened after that......HEA was and still is Brillant, but it should be able oto work with a Light Parade!!!



How are we so sure ROE Returning will be Epcot's next step if Luminous Bombs?? I have not seen one Insider saying ROE is still in Epcot's Office!!
 

SoFloMagic

Well-Known Member
All that happened with Spectro is it didn't get the TLC and the Referb that was planned.... Makes me wonder what's going on with MSEP/PTN right now..........

MSEP wasn't a cut in 1999 since Spectro returned in 2001. And I don't believe MK was saving any money in 2010 when we had MSEP and 180 Prim. Fireworks every night that Summer. I'm not going to lie, what happened after 2010 for Spectro is Tragic. But, I don't believe that was MK's Real Plan on IOA's Potter Opening Day. And MSEP did have a Successful Run until Oct 2016. We all know what happened after that......HEA was and still is Brillant, but it should be able oto work with a Light Parade!!!



How are we so sure ROE Returning will be Epcot's next step if Luminous Bombs?? I have not seen one Insider saying ROE is still in Epcot's Office!!
Luminous won't bomb and illuminations won't return. Anyone who listens to the reasons for harmonious' failure will understand that they've eliminated those issues.
 

stuart

Well-Known Member
Why would it be? I don't remember seeing a post regarding the central barge's completion
Apart from some insider knowledge, the only way to know is from aerial photos taken by Bioreconstruct.

For all anyone knows, the barge may be completed since his last images were posted, and brought out after hours tonight if they are doing a rehersal.
 

hatbloxghost

New Member
Apart from some insider knowledge, the only way to know is from aerial photos taken by Bioreconstruct.

For all anyone knows, the barge may be completed since his last images were posted, and brought out after hours tonight if they are doing a rehersal.
Actually, you may have a point. The Central Barge could be completed by now, it's just that maybe Bioreconstruct didn't post anything regarding it.
 

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