Maps, maybe, buttons, I would not count on it. If I am not mistaken at MK's 40th buttons were gone in around an hour. I think the same was true at Epcot's 25th.
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Epcots 30th Anniversary - schedule
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shipley731
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I went to Epcot about 2pm on October 1, 2007 & I got a button at the front gate. I was originally avoiding Epcot as I thought it would be super crowded for the Anniversary, but after seeing folks walking through MK with the Epcot Anniversary buttons, the husband & I decided to go over to see if we could get one. They were handing them out in the afternoon. I have the button up in my cubicle at work.
Yet I know people who got there at 11 and were told that they were all gone.
Rob562
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I wonder if they over-stocked the International Gateway (where I presume they were also giving the buttons out) that morning and then moved some of the excess stock to the front gate later in the day.
-Rob
No telling. While buttons do seem like something they would outsource, they very well might have a button press on property and simply made more.
Figments Friend
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It seems to me Disney is just copying what was already done during the 25th Anniversary rally we all had five years ago....maps, pins...special merch, another re-dedication ceremony...etc.
Hmmm...well they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and i did get the impression that some positive waves were made with that wonderfully enthusiastic fan uprising we all enjoyed five years ago.....but....
....i find it amusing.
I am however thrilled that my hero Tony Baxter is coming to town.
I will confess now that back in the early stages of planning the fan rally for the 25th, it was Tony Baxter above all people i was personally hoping would be attracted and come to the get-together.
Nice to see him partaking in the anniversary this time around...even though i will miss out on the experience.
I love you Tony !
It seems to me Disney is just copying what was already done during the 25th Anniversary rally we all had five years ago....maps, pins...special merch, another re-dedication ceremony...etc.
Hmmm...well they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and i did get the impression that some positive waves were made with that wonderfully enthusiastic fan uprising we all enjoyed five years ago.....but....
....i find it amusing.
I am however thrilled that my hero Tony Baxter is coming to town.
I will confess now that back in the early stages of planning the fan rally for the 25th, it was Tony Baxter above all people i was personally hoping would be attracted and come to the get-together.
Nice to see him partaking in the anniversary this time around...even though i will miss out on the experience.
I love you Tony !
SirNim
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It's all so very déjà vu, is it not?
I just feel some of these events, features, and special surprises should have been reserved to the 25th. Which is a substantially more important milestone than the 30th. Weird that the 30th should engender a greater sense of celebration than the 25th.
Figments Friend
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Hello Sir...nice to see you again! It has been a while....
I think Disney learned a LOT from us EPCOT fans *last time around*.
They learned that Retro is good for the cash registers, and they learned about a group of people who had a real serious and in many cases mature passion for a Park the Company themselves chose to originally ignore for its 25th Anniversary. After the fan-initiated 25th Event, things have changed quite a bit.
We now have a *official Disney Fan Club*...Anniversary anything now seems trumpeted ...Retro merch, particularly Epcot materials, have really exploded on the scene. Disney now seems very aware that such anniversary events are very popular with said fan bases, and has decided to embrace the 30th with open arms.
My what a change from five years ago...!
I mean, after the success in sales alone caused by the 25th...from a business standpoint they would be crazy not to try to have another go.
I think it is good that they are acknowledging the 30th, but this time around it seems to smack too much of trying to make a quick extra buck. Maybe i am just being naive, but the things that took place for the 25th seemed all the more special because it all happened because of loyal longtime fans banding together and making something amazing happen....together. And Disney literally bended over backwards at times to help make that day even more special for those in attendance, and those involved in organizing said fan gathering. It was a amazing experience...
If only Tony Baxter was there though....that year!
TONY! WHERE WERE YOU on October 1st, 2007 ??
I think Disney learned a LOT from us EPCOT fans *last time around*.
They learned that Retro is good for the cash registers, and they learned about a group of people who had a real serious and in many cases mature passion for a Park the Company themselves chose to originally ignore for its 25th Anniversary. After the fan-initiated 25th Event, things have changed quite a bit.
We now have a *official Disney Fan Club*...Anniversary anything now seems trumpeted ...Retro merch, particularly Epcot materials, have really exploded on the scene. Disney now seems very aware that such anniversary events are very popular with said fan bases, and has decided to embrace the 30th with open arms.
My what a change from five years ago...!
I mean, after the success in sales alone caused by the 25th...from a business standpoint they would be crazy not to try to have another go.
I think it is good that they are acknowledging the 30th, but this time around it seems to smack too much of trying to make a quick extra buck. Maybe i am just being naive, but the things that took place for the 25th seemed all the more special because it all happened because of loyal longtime fans banding together and making something amazing happen....together. And Disney literally bended over backwards at times to help make that day even more special for those in attendance, and those involved in organizing said fan gathering. It was a amazing experience...
If only Tony Baxter was there though....that year!
TONY! WHERE WERE YOU on October 1st, 2007 ??
englanddg
One Little Spark...
Heh...Tony Baxter.
I don't think that WDI really cares much about EPCOT Futureworld. Disney Parks love EPCOT World Showcase, because it's a huge profit center (restaurants and booze)...but the idea of having a cohesive park?
They gave up on that a long time ago. Maybe it's because they are not nearly as innovative as they think they are (really, how many times can you say "It's all about the story" and then turn out crap like Test Track or Mission Space before you believe your own poop smells good?)
I'm ranting (obviously), and I'm not sure if it's WDI, or the funding arm of Disney, or Parks Management, or what...but I suspect a political mix of the three.
I don't think anyone at Disney is really committed to Futureworld at EPCOT (and yeah, that's what the EPCOT fans are griping about...World Showcase has, if anything, gotten better!)...They mistook the idea of sposorship to mean "profit margin"...when really, sponsorship is investment.
If you can't make a CBA for a client, no wonder they lose interest.
If the LARGEST SEA WATER AQUARIUM IN THE WORLD before ATL loses a sponser...something is wrong with the model. And it's not EPCOT that is wrong.
To me, it began when they started fiddling with the idea of Futureworld...
They say "it's all about story"...ok, well, HERE is the STORY
You walk in, and ride Spaceship Earth, which tells you where we were as a species, and inspires you as to where we are going. Then, each pavilion breaks down individual aspects of our future that we must tackle, from transportation, to health, to where to live (dead Horizons), how to get energy, food, and ecological awareness...
Ending with a Pavilion that inspires you to think outside the box (Imagination).
In the middle are expos of how where we currently are, on the edge of current tech, while the pavilions inspire.
I dunno, I'm sure I'm making no sense...I'm just VERY upset at what Futureworld has become. And I'm not optimistic about where it's going. Were it not 1/2 of an already operating park, I'm sure someone at Disney would have shut it all down already.
englanddg
One Little Spark...
I should toss out there that the first real job I applied for was at Disney...I wanted to be a sweeper (they had them back then) at EPCOT. Partially because I spoke not only english, but german, and passable french and spanish, and as a <16 year old with a FL pass who lurked at the parks (sure I'd never be allowed to do that now) every summer, I found myself giving directions to foreigners often (mostly where the bathrooms were)...and thought it would be a fun job (as back then, the sweepers were the most obvious guest facing cast members...early 90s)
Odd, John Lassiter said he did that too.
But, DisneyLand is in his heart. I have no animosity for DL. DL is and should be superior to MK. But EPCOT is pure WDW, and should always be.
When they brought Sourin' to EPCOT, my heart sank. That was the biggest copout ever.
Odd, John Lassiter said he did that too.
But, DisneyLand is in his heart. I have no animosity for DL. DL is and should be superior to MK. But EPCOT is pure WDW, and should always be.
When they brought Sourin' to EPCOT, my heart sank. That was the biggest copout ever.
FigmentJedi
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The opening of the D23 presentation, which was all that was allowed to be video'd
WDW Monorail
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That's right, the most popular ride on the property is a copout.
janoimagine
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Yes ... it was. But I think you took his post out of context. I think the poster was implying that copying a ride from DCA was copping out ... and not that Soarin' was a bad attraction. I agree with englanddg ... to simply clone an attraction and not give Epcot a unique attraction at the time ... (Hell a Soarin' over the world even to tie it into the park) ... was a copout.
Figments Friend
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Thank you Tahu for posting the video.
Thank you Tahu for posting the video.
The Empress Lilly
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If one builds Carsland in DAK's Dinoland, it will no doubt prove to be the most popular ride in the land, perhaps the park. But it will still be a copout, in the sense of failing to come up with a concept that is succesful AND thematically relevant, that is, strenghtens the park, the theme, the emotional tone.
Thematic intrusions merely add to the woes, further undermine the unifying tone and theme, to the point where this is barely recognisable anymore and rides are left to be simply judged for their individual experience. Add Avengers in DAK's Africa, Woody's rooting tootin cowboy round-up in Asia, and 'Oasis - the Band' in The Oasis, and DAK's theme will have been watered down so much that visitors will not even understand anymore why these rides clash with the park: 'but the ride is popular, what are you talking about'?
RSoxNo1
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This points to the approach of the public. If a ride doesn't fit in with an area's theme, but is a popular ride there is less of an outcry. The best examples are Soarin' in The Land pavilion or Splash Mountain in Frontierland. Alternatively, if the ride doesn't fit in and it's a mediocre ride, the thematic intrusion is added as a negative for the ride.
Personally, I'd love for Disney to take the Soarin' Over the World idea, and change the entrance to Soarin' to one out of World Showcase (Perhaps even out of Millennium Village/World Showplace).