DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

Centauri Space Station

Well-Known Member
It’s in the worst shape for a long time. Imag. Magic Eye. Image Works. LwtL. Seas. Wonders. SSE.

Lipstick on a pig didn’t help it.
LWTL has been getting additions every festival and a seasonal overlay, new lighting in the rainforest, etc. Seas has new signage and fixed effects, why do you think they are in the worst shape?
 

dreamfinding

Well-Known Member
LWTL has been getting additions every festival and a seasonal overlay, new lighting in the rainforest, etc. Seas has new signage and fixed effects, why do you think they are in the worst shape?
Agreeing here. LWTL is beloved by all and someone out there it taking care of it.

I will argue that OP is correct about all of Imagination, Magic Eye, and Wonders.

SSE is not in the best of shape, but again, someone seems to at least be maintaining it.
 

Centauri Space Station

Well-Known Member
Agreeing here. LWTL is beloved by all and someone out there it taking care of it.

I will argue that OP is correct about all of Imagination, Magic Eye, and Wonders.

SSE is not in the best of shape, but again, someone seems to at least be maintaining it.
I’d definitely not say SSE is in its best shape but i also think 2003-05 after AT&T dropped sponsorship and the global neighborhood sat abandoned was worse.
 

dreamfinding

Well-Known Member
I’d definitely not say SSE is in its best shape but i also think 2003-05 after AT&T dropped sponsorship and the global neighborhood sat abandoned was worse.
Oh SSE is in terrible shape, but I have heard there is someone who is taking care of it as far as ride maintenance goes.

It’s mind boggling to think all of those sets are still up there.
 

Brer Panther

Well-Known Member
Even though they are adding IPs, I can’t complain because all the IPs actually FIT in the new land without having to be modified. It also fits Animal Kingdom- we now have a Central/South America land to go along with Africa and Asia.
South America fits Animal Kingdom. Indiana Jones and Encanto do not. They are not about animals or even conservation.
I understand the complaints about Dinorama being lackluster, etc, but again, why not improve Dinoland, make it awesome, and add Tropical Americas elsewhere? They have the space. They have the money. Add capacity to the park. Dinosaurs are an eternal theme. They deserve a place in the park. To excise them completely is just crazy.
Because Disney doesn't have any popular dinosaur-themed IPs, and Iger hates rides that aren't based on IPs. That's the whole reason.

However, they own Ice Age now. If we can apparently have the Simpsons going into Hollywood Studios, I see no reason why we can't have Ice Age in Animal Kingdom.
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
After the Journalist session Tom had mentioned all three franchises. That was taken as confirmation something was shown off by Imagineering we were not yet privy to, which affirmed Coco was indeed the highlighted IP for the carousel +/- inspiration for portions of the town.

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I'm not betting some sort of identity on its presence or lack thereof. Just questioning its validity. I want to see evidence and the weird lack of true evidence is making me question it. For the theory that I've outlined already.

It was part of the land originally and has been slowly carved back out as Encanto and Coco became 'decoupled' as a singular land vision in the original project format. Though the final decoupling was to occur once the company firmed up on its commitment to Coco in Magic Kingdom, which it seems to have done so.
Tom is spot on regarding Disney's strategy. Quite a bit of the Star Wars concept art was not released to the press either. Generally the relevant pieces of concept art are released to the media in a high resolution format. The EPCOT central spine with the floating triangles was never released and the only images that exist publicly are photos of the screen. I believe the same is true of the 3rd Galaxy's Edge attraction and a handful of other concept art from that.
 

_caleb

Well-Known Member
It's a theme park, not a zoo. There need to be more rides.
I like that it’s a theme park with walkthrough trails and fewer rides. I’d actually like if they’d add more trails and maybe a bit more “show” (themed/interactive set pieces) to those trails.
Until they added the River of Light show, it was an AM only park, due to the humidity from the foliage.
Nah - even with those it’s not a full day. Last time there, we walked the trails pretty slowly and still had tons of extra time — so we rode Flight five times. Safari twice. (We didn’t have park hopper.)
I’ve always heard this, but except when we get rained out, we’ve always taken a full day (or at least open to close) at AK. I guess we go slow and try to do/see/explore/eat everything.
 

McMickeyWorld

Well-Known Member
Deserts are not typically described as tropical even if there are deserts in the tropics.
Don't get me wrong, although Santa Cecilia with its inspirations and aesthetics does not fit the term "tropical America." Classifying Mexico as a desert is strange, especially hearing it as a Mexican. It's also important to consider that, judging by the research trip short, they are being inspired by the southern part of the country, so I don't see the problem.
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Twirlnhurl

Well-Known Member
Dinosaur was the fifth highest grossing film of 2000.
I did not believe you, so I had to look it up. That is absolutely crazy! The movie felt like such a flop! Disney even closed a entire movie studio over the performance of Dinosaur!
So then you're riding the same animals you just saw in Encanto? That would be like having the Dumbo spinner right outside a Dumbo ride.
One of my favorite things about Disneyland is that great little corner of Fantasyland with the Mad Tea Party next to Alice in Wonderland. I think it could work.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
LWTL has been getting additions every festival and a seasonal overlay, new lighting in the rainforest, etc. Seas has new signage and fixed effects, why do you think they are in the worst shape?
State of the animatronics and effects in the boat ride. 30 year old flashing light finale. Nemo is dated and still suffers from its original slashed budget and confused theming.
 

MerlinTheGoat

Well-Known Member
Wow, I never thought i'd see that effect again. It has been missing since 2014, a decade. What's going on over there that they suddenly started to show some care and attention to this attraction? Love to see it.

There's a pretty large damaged chunk of the wall touching the ceiling in the desert scene. If they haven't already fixed that, then it should be a priority. Most videos don't show it due to lighting and camera angles, but it's very noticeable in person. That ceiling there also needs cleaning and repainting as it's covered in mold.

I also can't remember the last time the doors to the greenhouse worked. Maybe close to when this fire effect stopped working.

And yeah last I checked the animal figures are still sluggish (some static) and need some love.
 

SilentWindODoom

Well-Known Member
Huh... Dallin really bringing the attention got Disney to shape up, huh?

In all seriousness, I haven't been on Living with the Land since this effect stopped and have no memory of it whatsoever. I thought for a sec it was being posted as a lighting failure showing the wear of the state of the ride.

I was shocked by the mention of no rain in the rainforest? I swore the effects were working in all recent video I've seen of it. But now that I look, I realize I'm thinking of the effects in the first scene. What effect is missing in the rainforest?

On Nemo, I went for the first time when it was fairly new. The Living Seas was my favorite pavilion and my earliest memories of it include the film and ride, so I was already disappointed, but on my ride a number of the scenes, most notably the EAC, looped twice while I was in them. I don't know if the ride was experiencing problems or slowed for someone with special needs loading and unloading or if that's just the usual experience.

The anglerfish is awesome, tho. Glad to check a ride-through from two years ago and finding it apparently still works.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Reminder that Coco was not set in a desert area of Mexico. And that there are areas of Mexico that are "in the tropics" as in "between the Tropics of Cancer and Capricorn" that are lush and green if not a "rain forest."

"Tropical Americas" covers Northern, Central, and South America. They're all "Americas."

Note that the phrase does not contain "rain forest" nor "jungle."

"Tropical" means "between the latitudes of the Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn.

In the "Tropical Zone" you can have rain forests and you can have deserts (e.g., the Sahara). Some area have a wet season, and a dry season.

Here are Tropical rain forests from all the way from the Equator to the Tropic of Cancer....

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Coco takes place in Santa Cecilia and looks like this....

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Note the forests in the background. It was based on this town...

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I'm sure the animators peeled back a lot of the trees so we can see the town and architecture.

I think the confusion comes from Disney constantly theming DAK to a tropical rain forest/jungle most places.

Coco is in Tropical Americas. That doesn't mean "rain forest."

In fact, Encanto doesn't seem to be in a place that qualifies as "rain forest" either.
 

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