News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

[MrPromey]

I don’t disagree, but the overarching theme for DAK is conservation, and Indy sought to conserve civilization against the Nazi’s, Russians, and Thuggees.

I like this idea and I think in keeping with their strong conversation theme, admission to this park should be completely free - in service of conserving my bank account.

Total thematic lock, right?!

 

[MrPromey]

I just can't believe we're having this conversation when the larger encompassing issue is the underbuilt theme parks, and the poor execution of Disney Genie+. Not guests who have disabilities. The sheer amount of people using the Lightning Lanes via Disney Genie+ or ILL is far greater than those who have a DAS.

This is how Disney likes it - us fighting among ourselves about which guests are the "real problem" while they continue to raise prices and let too many people into underbuilt parks.

Disney's not the problem, after all, it's those other fans, right?

Oh, and here's an illustration of a blue sky idea that nobody has even given any real thought into how to build yet so we won't go into any details on what the experience you'll probably never see would maybe be.

 

[Tha Realest]

This is how Disney likes it - us fighting among ourselves about which guests are the real problem while they continue to raise prices and let too many people into underbuilt parks.

Disney's not the problem, after all, it's those other fans, right?

I don’t disagree that this is a problem Disney has caused, and continues to cause, especially by monetizing this service. I do think anecdotal information (TP) and Disney’s own statements reflect an uptick in DAS abuse that is not inconsequential.

 

[MrPromey]

I don’t disagree that this is a problem Disney has caused, and continues to cause, especially by monetizing this service. I do think anecdotal information (TP) and Disney’s own statements reflect an uptick in DAS abuse that is not inconsequential.

No argument there - just saying if things weren't the way they were people A) wouldn't be as likely to abuse it as they are now (although some undoubtedly still would) and B) the impact of such abuse wouldn't create as much of a problem for other guests as it does today.

This reminds me of Walt's approach to Disneyland: See people taking shortcuts through bushes - put a path there. See people dropping garbage in certain areas - put a trash can there.

Focus on the reason people aren't doing things the way you want them to and fix the cause rather than try to force compliance. Not only is it the more humane way to go, it's also the only real practical solution when you're talking about paying customers who change over daily and can't really be trained/punished into submission the way you need them to be.

Of course, it's going to take a lot more than concrete and trash cans to fix the problems they've created for guests, here.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I don’t disagree that this is a problem Disney has caused, and continues to cause, especially by monetizing this service. I do think anecdotal information (TP) and Disney’s own statements reflect an uptick in DAS abuse that is not inconsequential.

Those numbers though still show usage that is below the baseline prevalence of disability within the general population which is expected to increase as the population ages.

 

[SpectreJordan]

The “warehouse” issue is inherent to trackless rides and one of the primary reasons I wish they’d move away from them. That said, I prefer MMRR to RotR by quite some margin - one captures the essence of its subject matter and one doesn’t. In fact, I think MMRR is superior to most trackless rides - BatB, Rat, etc. I’m no fan of screenz, but the subject matter and integration of 3d figures and props in MMRR make me much more inclined to give it a pass. I’d PROBABLY rather have GMR, but of all the great replaced attractions - Horizons, WoM, Imagination, Energy, etc - GMR to MMRR strikes me as the least egregious (if we ignore how easy it should have been to have both). Just my opinion, of course…

Really? I think ROTR does a much better job at that. That entire ride reminds me of the 2nd act of the original Star Wars where Luke, Han, Leia & Chewie are running around the Death Star, dodging Stormtroopers & traps.

The Mickey ride is fun but it's a bit too slow for how fast paced & crazy those cartoons are. The vehicles need to be faster to really fit in with that.

Edit: I quoted this in the wrong thread. Oops!

 

[Brer Panther]

I don’t disagree, but the overarching theme for DAK is conservation, and Indy sought to conserve civilization against the Nazi’s, Russians, and Thuggees.

Going off that logic, they should conserve the presence of dinosaurs in the park by retaining Dinosaur.

I dislike the armchair imagineers who are quick to throw out big ideas without having all the information as though their high-level story treatments were superior (or even possible).

We're just having fun. I know my pitch for a Muppets dark ride would be pretty hard to actually pull off, and that Disney would likely never approve it (for various reasons), but I just thought of the idea one day and thought it'd be fun to actually do a write-up for this hypothetical ride. And, come on, you can't tell me something like the Ratatouille ride is really more impressive than some of the ideas in the Imagineering forum.

Which bad ideas have I defended?

I'm tempted to say the Splash Mountain retheme (which, by the way, wouldn't have even been greenlit if it weren't for armchair imagineering), but something tells me I shouldn't.

 

[drizgirl]

If someone can afford a Disney vacation and claim they need DAS, healthcare access is not an issue.

I doubt it’s really that black and white.

 

[mkt]

They aren’t a hostage, they can leave but then they lose their spot in line. You know like the rest of us, but with much nicer accommodations, which they deserve because of their disability.

My DAS/Universal warranting disability occasionally requires me to get up and leave the queue. Should I lose my spot in line?

 

[Touchdown]

My DAS/Universal warranting disability occasionally requires me to get up and leave the queue. Should I lose my spot in line?

If you had a lounge with plenty of seats, refreshments and bathrooms, and air conditioning you would still need to leave?

 

[999th Happy Haunt]

If you had a lounge with plenty of seats, refreshments and bathrooms, and air conditioning you would still need to leave?

Dude I think you need to get off this hill, if for no other reason than it has nothing to do with this thread.

 

[mkt]

If you had a lounge with plenty of seats, refreshments and bathrooms, and air conditioning you would still need to leave?

Nope. But I don't need that lounge and find it unnecessary.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I wonder if Up is being considered as part of Tropical Americas?

 

[doctornick]

I wonder if Up is being considered as part of Tropical Americas?

It would make more sense than Coco if they are looking for an additional IP. It’s one of the few IPs that would be pretty seamless to integrate in DAK with just the baseline of effort - there’s clearly elements of adventure, exploration of nature, love of animals, conservation, etc right in the narrative. There’s even an in universe way to communicate with animals which could be a cool element for a DAK attraction

 

[RSoxNo1]

It would make more sense than Coco if they are looking for an additional IP. It’s one of the few IPs that would be pretty seamless to integrate in DAK with just the baseline of effort - there’s clearly elements of adventure, exploration of nature, love of animals, conservation, etc right in the narrative. There’s even an in universe way to communicate with animals which could be a cool element for a DAK attraction

There's actually a Dug translation collar right by the entrance to It's Tough to be a Bug

 

[doctornick]

There's actually a Dug translation collar right by the entrance to It's Tough to be a Bug

There's a M&G for Up characters in the area, no?

My point is more that using those collars - maybe not only on dogs but other animals - could be a cool story element in learning about/understanding different animals in South America. Also, of course, can be played for laughs which is a good aspect to have in attractions.

 

[spectromagic04]

There's a M&G for Up characters in the area, no?

My point is more that using those collars - maybe not only on dogs but other animals - could be a cool story element in learning about/understanding different animals in South America. Also, of course, can be played for laughs which is a good aspect to have in attractions.

No not anymore they haven’t been a meet and greet characters since before covid.

 

[SpectreJordan]

It would make more sense than Coco if they are looking for an additional IP. It’s one of the few IPs that would be pretty seamless to integrate in DAK with just the baseline of effort - there’s clearly elements of adventure, exploration of nature, love of animals, conservation, etc right in the narrative. There’s even an in universe way to communicate with animals which could be a cool element for a DAK attraction

Those characters are already all over the park too. Giving them a home would make a lot of sense!

 

[Touchdown]

Just wanted to give an update for all of you ITTBAB fans, Hopper is back!

 

[SamusAranX]

I rode DINOSAUR and everything appeared to be working. I forgot how much I enjoyed it. I really hope they find a way to keep it.