News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

lentesta

lentesta

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doctornick said:
I wouldn't be shocked - and extremely disappointed - if they were reworking the Animation Courtyard area and didn't building into the substantial (backstage) land just north of what you are depicting which has buildings that could easily be torn down and their functions moved. they need to connect Animation Courtyard with the RNR are for better flow in the park.
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You know, once you've rented a bulldozer, it doesn't cost anything extra to knock down more buildings.
 
JD80

JD80

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lentesta said:
I could be wrong. But yeah, what I've heard is MK and HS are the focus.

This is all off the top of my head, so help me clarify my thinking here.

The thing I don't know is whether the strategy Disney's betting on is:
  1. Add to already-popular parks -or-
  2. Add to less-popular parks
Strategy #1 seems to make sense if Disney sees a need to get people in the door. So if surveys say "I'm not coming because there's nothing new", even after everything that's been added to EPCOT, then adding to MK makes sense. Lots of people think WDW === MK.

Strategy #2 seems to make sense if they need to get people to stay longer. Like, people are coming, but they're only going to 2 parks instead of 3 or 4.

I mention strategy #2 because I recently got an email asking for advice about G+. When I asked for details about the trip, the response was "We're doing 2 days at MK, 1 at EP, and 1 at HS."

I would love to see how many people are skipping AK like that. And this person has a 2-BR at BLT for a week. They have the money and the time.
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We skipped DHS last trip (you have that data via TP though). We did 2 days at Epcot, 1 day at AK and 1 day at MK as well as the MVMCP.
 
JohnD

JohnD

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imagineer97 said:
I would guess that the Cars Land of DHS would be significantly smaller, probably only including RSR if anything. Let's check sizes...

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As you can see, RSR itself is actually larger than the space they have at DHS. I'm assuming if they did this they would have to rearrange things backstage a bit at DHS. But there's basically no way we are getting an entire Cars Land over there.
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There's a parking lot north of SWLB which would yield additional space.

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JD80

JD80

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DHS really needs reshaping after all the additions throughout the years. It's a pain to navigate. Plenty of room in animation courtyard all the way around to RNR.

Personally, I would love to see RNR rethemed to something spooky and add some other space back there and make a scary/spooky area permanently in the parks. Take some pressure off the MNSSHP and throw in another ticketed event.
 
Disgruntled Walt

Disgruntled Walt

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I've extended it to include the extra parking lots, while keeping whatever backstage area is across Theatre of the Stars Dr. on the left side. That gets us a bit more substantial space, but still smaller than Toy Story Land in total footprint.

If we get rid of the entire backstage area over, almost all the way to World Dr, you've got a plot of land even bigger than TSL and SWGE. But this one is very unlikely, so I'd say we could get something in between TSL and SWGE in size, if it's a whole new land.
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JohnD

JohnD

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imagineer97 said:
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I've extended it to include the extra parking lots, while keeping whatever backstage area is across Theatre of the Stars Dr. on the left side. That gets us a bit more substantial space, but still smaller than Toy Story Land in total footprint.

If we get rid of the entire backstage area over, almost all the way to World Dr, you've got a plot of land even bigger than TSL and SWGE. But this one is very unlikely, so I'd say we could get something in between TSL and SWGE in size, if it's a whole new land.
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You're welcome. Although, I would prefer keeping Walt Disney Presents. It's still Walt Disney World after all. Anything to give him recognition.
 
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doctornick

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imagineer97 said:
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I've extended it to include the extra parking lots, while keeping whatever backstage area is across Theatre of the Stars Dr. on the left side. That gets us a bit more substantial space, but still smaller than Toy Story Land in total footprint.

If we get rid of the entire backstage area over, almost all the way to World Dr, you've got a plot of land even bigger than TSL and SWGE. But this one is very unlikely, so I'd say we could get something in between TSL and SWGE in size, if it's a whole new land.
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Personally, I'd keep Walt Disney Presents and the Mermaid show (they are re-opening!) to go along with the Disney Junior show and have some some sort of land there. And start demolition at the point of the old Animation building (Launch Bay) and go back for whatever new land could be built.
 
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Bocabear

Bocabear

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I would scrap the entire Animation building, Mermaid theater and Disney Junior in favor of a complete, fully fleshed out toontown...where all the Disney Animation characters live... If you have been to Toontown at Disneyland you understand how much fun this could be....and with more space they could do even more with it...Beyond that it makes sense that DHS have an area celebrating the characters that created Disney Studios...
 
Dranth

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Interesting.

All the parks need help but if they are going to artificially restrict updates to only a couple of parks at a time, it makes a sort of sense to do MK and HS first as they need the most help to handle the crowds that are already showing up.

I personally feel that HS has become the least enjoyable park at this point. It was my favorite back in the MGM days even though it was mostly shows but recently, it is just a teeming cluster of humanity and endless long wait. On our last 10-day trip, we spent ½ day at HS and were done. It just isn’t a very pleasant park to be in and I wonder if they are seeing more and more of that.
 
SplashJacket

SplashJacket

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Dranth said:
Interesting.

All the parks need help but if they are going to artificially restrict updates to only a couple of parks at a time, it makes a sort of sense to do MK and HS first as they need the most help to handle the crowds that are already showing up.

I personally feel that HS has become the least enjoyable park at this point. It was my favorite back in the MGM days even though it was mostly shows but recently, it is just a teeming cluster of humanity and endless long wait. On our last 10-day trip, we spent ½ day at HS and were done. It just isn’t a very pleasant park to be in and I wonder if they are seeing more and more of that.
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I agree. HS is definitely the worst standalone park IMHO. That said, the ride-lineup is really elite for families without little kids.

Once I became a local, Hollywood became amazing, because if you treat Hollywood and Epcot as one mega park (as I began doing), it’s the best park in the world. Start in Hollywood, hit a few great rides, then hop to Epcot once you’re hungry and enjoy the food, shows, ambiance, etc.

Epcot primarily lacks elite attractions (especially until Guardians opened) whereas Hollywood pretty much only has elite attractions, so they’re really nice to have side-by-side.

To make DHS a complete park, it needs a lot, but honestly, once they get rid of the ugly in animation courtyard, I will be far less bothered by it.

Animal Kingdom is a spectacular park that needs quantity. It has everything else in a balanced format. It needs quantity of those formats. I would personally prefer stuff as Animal Kingdom in the short term (because I found myself not visiting often because of the lack of depth, even though I love the park), whereas the pitfalls of Hollywood can be more easily overcame.
 
AKL2003

AKL2003

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SplashZander said:
I agree. HS is definitely the worst standalone park IMHO. That said, the ride-lineup is really elite for families without little kids.

Once I became a local, Hollywood became amazing, because if you treat Hollywood and Epcot as one mega park (as I began doing), it’s the best park in the world. Start in Hollywood, hit a few great rides, then hop to Epcot once you’re hungry and enjoy the food, shows, ambiance, etc.

Epcot primarily lacks elite attractions (especially until Guardians opened) whereas Hollywood pretty much only has elite attractions, so they’re really nice to have side-by-side.

To make DHS a complete park, it needs a lot, but honestly, once they get rid of the ugly in animation courtyard, I will be far less bothered by it.

Animal Kingdom is a spectacular park that needs quantity. It has everything else in a balanced format. It needs quantity of those formats. I would personally prefer stuff as Animal Kingdom in the short term (because I found myself not visiting often because of the lack of depth, even though I love the park), whereas the pitfalls of Hollywood can be more easily overcame.
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I agree…we were at AK a few weeks ago and everest was down most of the day…threw the park into a tailspin which wouldnt happen if there were more to do to spread out the crowds
 
bcoachable

bcoachable

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Dranth said:
Interesting.

All the parks need help but if they are going to artificially restrict updates to only a couple of parks at a time, it makes a sort of sense to do MK and HS first as they need the most help to handle the crowds that are already showing up.

I personally feel that HS has become the least enjoyable park at this point. It was my favorite back in the MGM days even though it was mostly shows but recently, it is just a teeming cluster of humanity and endless long wait. On our last 10-day trip, we spent ½ day at HS and were done. It just isn’t a very pleasant park to be in and I wonder if they are seeing more and more of that.
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there are currently lots of things wrong with the park, but losing the street-moshphere has to be considered when discussing what is missing...
 
Brer Oswald

Brer Oswald

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Bocabear said:
I would scrap the entire Animation building, Mermaid theater and Disney Junior in favor of a complete, fully fleshed out toontown...where all the Disney Animation characters live... If you have been to Toontown at Disneyland you understand how much fun this could be....and with more space they could do even more with it...Beyond that it makes sense that DHS have an area celebrating the characters that created Disney Studios...
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Would be amazing.
 

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