News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
After BatB I'm less optimistic they'll hit a home run.

That's a ride that's less than the sum of its parts and suffers from poor staging and pacing...and mostly wastes its ride system.

It seems roughly on par with other Disney trackless rides to me, with maybe one or two exceptions.
 

Poseidon Quest

Well-Known Member
After BatB I'm less optimistic they'll hit a home run.

That's a ride that's less than the sum of its parts and suffers from poor staging and pacing...and mostly wastes its ride system.

It's a weirdly polarizing attraction. I feel the opposite, where I think that almost all other trackless Disney rides waste an enormous amount of space. BatB maximizes its footprint by allowing each scene to evolve around the vehicles as they dance to the music. I thought it was much more clever than Rise.
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
It's a weirdly polarizing attraction. I feel the opposite, where I think that almost all other trackless Disney rides waste an enormous amount of space. BatB maximizes its footprint by allowing each scene to evolve around the vehicles as they dance to the music. I thought it was much more clever than Rise.

Even BatB wastes a lot of space (and time) in the outdoors scene. They should have had the vehicles move from there into the library, which is one of the most memorable settings in the film (even though it only appears for a short period).

It has some other design flaws, but overall it looks like one of the best attractions Disney has built in the last decade.
 

flyerjab

Well-Known Member
With this possible expansion looming in the future, and if Rohde was still overseeing it, there is almost no way he’d be on board without something related to the rain forest, how important it is to this planet, the pure number of species that live there, how it is being threatened, etc. If this is basically “here are the Tropical Americas and here are 3 IPs that occurred there” but nothing more related to animals from this part of the world or the dangers posed due to deforestation, that will demonstrate such a lack of imagination. It will really continue to demonstrate how Iger has ripped the very soul out of what Imagineering is capable of doing. Epcot definitely demonstrates this, and DAK will follow. Heck, Rohde even managed to fit messaging into Pandora about poor mining practices and the importance of keystone species. No way Iger cared one iota about that. Do I think Bruce Vaughn has the type of clout to make a stand about something like this? Doubtful. We will see I suppose.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Even BatB wastes a lot of space (and time) in the outdoors scene. They should have had the vehicles move from there into the library, which is one of the most memorable settings in the film (even though it only appears for a short period).

It has some other design flaws, but overall it looks like one of the best attractions Disney has built in the last decade.
From what I've seen in the video of it, I agree.

The Something There is practically nothing there. But the rest of it is engaging for what it is: A tour of the musical numbers from BatB.

Altho, they could have plussed the queue with a lot of animatronic furnishings and cookware that moved, even a little. It's rather flat.
 

bmr1591

Well-Known Member
With this possible expansion looming in the future, and if Rohde was still overseeing it, there is almost no way he’d be on board without something related to the rain forest, how important it is to this planet, the pure number of species that live there, how it is being threatened, etc. If this is basically “here are the Tropical Americas and here are 3 IPs that occurred there” but nothing more related to animals from this part of the world or the dangers posed due to deforestation, that will demonstrate such a lack of imagination. It will really continue to demonstrate how Iger has ripped the very soul out of what Imagineering is capable of doing. Epcot definitely demonstrates this, and DAK will follow. Heck, Rohde even managed to fit messaging into Pandora about poor mining practices and the importance of keystone species. No way Iger cared one iota about that. Do I think Bruce Vaughn has the type of clout to make a stand about something like this? Doubtful. We will see I suppose.

I don’t know Vaughn, but it certainly seems like when he was hired, the original AK plans of Zootopia land were shelved quickly. I’m hopeful he and D’Amaro respect the park enough to do it right.
 

Schmidt

Well-Known Member
Somehow, Indiana Jones still feels like the most strange proposal of all.

Barring obscure books and such, Indy movies consistently portray animals as obstacles. Indy's most famous quote is about hating a type of animal. I have seen a few people toss around the idea of an Indy-themed snake exhibit, but wouldn't it be a bit contradictory? Indiana Jones movies, for all of their cinematic accomplishments, aren't exactly known for engendering positive feelings/respect toward snakes.

They could try a "Indy tries to conquer his fear of snakes" angle, but I really don't know how that could be done within Indy's adventure serial world.
They could do an awesome snake exhibit tied into the attraction! Maybe with a South American Temple/Pyramid?
That could actually work!

I also don't think the ride will be cannon based.
 

splah

Well-Known Member
Even BatB wastes a lot of space (and time) in the outdoors scene. They should have had the vehicles move from there into the library, which is one of the most memorable settings in the film (even though it only appears for a short period).

It has some other design flaws, but overall it looks like one of the best attractions Disney has built in the last decade.
having only ridden BatB via youtube (but i do have experience with rise and MMRR) there's something to be said for tracked vehicles that allow the environments to be up close and personal (mr. toad, HM, pirates). in my opinion the ride vehicles are to blame b/c they are so massive. and then they want them to interact within each vehicle group, and that requires a lot of floor space. poohs hunny hunt gets the scale right and adds interest to its scenes by not having the rooms be so boxy.
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
So do we have any idea about any timeframe? Will there be an official announce (I guess D23 this summer)? Or would they start construction “quietly” before anything official? @wdwmagic

It could *theoretically* be a phased 2026-27 project (Indy/the broader land '26 and the Encanto attraction '27).

If they are panicky or pressured enough to make this come together that is.
 

TheMaxRebo

Well-Known Member
It could *theoretically* be a phased 2026-27 project (Indy/the broader land '26 and the Encanto attraction '27).

If they are panicky or pressured enough to make this come together that is.

I think more likely would be the other way - keep Dino open along with Restaurantasaurus while they work on the Encanto part

basically redo Chester & Hester area first
 

Magenta Panther

Well-Known Member
Just saw a video of Shanghai's Zootopia Land. We need it here. It's gorgeous, and the "Hot Pursuit" ride looks awesome. Even the merch is awesome. Nuts to Indiana Jones (it's dead) and Encanto (the kid who can talk to animals is no justification for an otherwise-irrelevant ride to be built in AK). Zootopia would be a great fit in AK. AK was supposed to be about real animals and fantasy animals. If we can't have dragons and unicorns, then Judy Hopps and Nick Wilde will do just fine. Won't happen, of course. That would cost money that the American Disney parks never get unless it's aimed at one of Iger's acquisitions. Frustrating.
 

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