News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

Andrew25

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That is one of the problems (Not aimed at you though 👋 )
Oh, I get exactly what you are referring to. I care about the parks' integrity... but I just don't realistically see a modern Disney create attractions that tie back to the original intention of the park. I can only hope the attraction (with whatever IP is mandated) is decent at this point, unfortunately.
 

TheMaxRebo

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I think the last blue sky presentation was about the best we can hope for under current management. It shouldn't be too disruptive to the park's theme and could (and should) potentially add at least a few new animals.

At the very least it was a massive improvement over building a Zootopia ride.

I was really glad it was more designed as a region for the area and then fit some IP into it vs like "Moana land"

Still wish they were expanding in addition to this update though ( 3rd attraction in Pandora, something behind Kali river, etc) to really expand the capacity of the park though
 

TheMaxRebo

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Still shocked they have not approved a third Avatar ride. The sequel shows it has staying power.

Same - along with a TS restaurant in the area - would think between that revenue and what would come from ILL (or increased G+ demand) from the 3rd attraction it could provide sufficient return. Plus increase demand in the evening witch keeps people in the park, buying food, etc.
 

RSoxNo1

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Same - along with a TS restaurant in the area - would think between that revenue and what would come from ILL (or increased G+ demand) from the 3rd attraction it could provide sufficient return. Plus increase demand in the evening witch keeps people in the park, buying food, etc.
@lentesta may be able to speak to this a little better than myself, but on a recent show he indicated that the number of Lightning Lane's distributed per hour per attraction is "less than 300". Assuming that also applies to the Individual Lightning Lane attractions, the amount of ILL money is probably not as substantial as we once thought.

Take a $20 a head attraction like Rise of the Resistance as an example: $20*300 per hour*12 hours*365 = $26,280,000. That's not nothing, but it's also not such a huge number that it's completely moving the needle.
 

SilentWindODoom

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Changes at DAK are gaining traction. For better or worse.

Any chance you'd be willing to share if there's any possibility of animal exhibits in these changes? New SA species? Retention of the gators? Full cleaning house?

Also (not for Martin, but just a general thought), I just had the thought when dining was brought up... We're all assuming some South American cuisine is going to be coming, right? Restaurantasaurus is Animal Kingdom's big safe space culinarily (like Cosmic Ray's, Electric Umbrella, or Sunset Market). I wonder if they plan on keeping the kid-safe options there alongside new things, moving it to Flametree or Pizzafari, or just retheming and keeping a burger joint in the middle of the Amazon.
 

SplashJacket

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@lentesta may be able to speak to this a little better than myself, but on a recent show he indicated that the number of Lightning Lane's distributed per hour per attraction is "less than 300". Assuming that also applies to the Individual Lightning Lane attractions, the amount of ILL money is probably not as substantial as we once thought.

Take a $20 a head attraction like Rise of the Resistance as an example: $20*300 per hour*12 hours*365 = $26,280,000. That's not nothing, but it's also not such a huge number that it's completely moving the needle.
Guardians pumped through ~400 per hour over a relatively small sample. Or $24.5 million annually, which was a lot lower than I originally suspected, and like you said, a lower impact. It’s the difference between paying for new attractions and simply helping justify them. The former would guarantee a constant stream of new attractions (since they could always be chasing that ILL), so it’s interesting.
 

RSoxNo1

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Guardians pumped through ~400 per hour over a relatively small sample. Or $24.5 million annually, which was a lot lower than I originally suspected, and like you said, a lower impact. It’s the difference between paying for new attractions and simply helping justify them. The former would guarantee a constant stream of new attractions (since they could always be chasing that ILL), so it’s interesting.
At that same time, all this represents is a direct line of income attributable to the attraction. That being said, I'm sure Disney has some sort of internal formula to determine what percentage of the gate is attributable to each attraction, just like they probably have some sort of internal formula to determine what percentage of the Disney+ income is attributable to each title. In 2007 when DAK's attendance increased by 1 million guests I'm guessing they have a pretty strong idea what percentage of that increase was due to Finding Nemo the Musical and what percentage was due to Expedition Everest.

Case in point. Let's assume the $25 million number for a ride like Rise of the Resistance. That attraction by itself has driven traffic to that park to the point of it being moderately problematic. The attraction has undoubtedly been worth more than $25 million a year to park ops.
 

RSoxNo1

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If they are serious about not building a 5th park then the whole of ‘behind thunder mountain’ needs to be the Villians land.

Animal Kingdom needs a lot more than the Dinoland we work. It will be a net gain of 1 attraction when said and done isn’t it? Nice land themes are all well and good but the parks need capacity..

I wonder if the proposed Lion King land for Paris will get cloned for AK too
What was the proposed Lion King land for Paris? I'd welcome a small flat ride or even a dark ride near the theater.
 

RSoxNo1

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There is no way that major attractions with ILL only distribute 300 ILLs per hour. Not with the ratios Disney does. It’s 50% of the capacity minimum.
I was of the impression that it was 30-60% of an attraction's capacity with the rest being made up by DAS, make goods and tours. But Per Len the distribution is much lower because the other items are so high.
 

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