I believe those numbers are making the rounds today from this Matt Belloni tweet -
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Elemental (Pixar - June 2023)
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I believe those numbers are making the rounds today from this Matt Belloni tweet -
Magenta Panther
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If that tracking holds up, that's kinda too bad for Elemental. I thought it looked cute. Does Pixar have so little clout with the public now? How times have changed.
Ruby Gillman, on the other hand, looks terrible. Awful character designs. It should have gone straight to streaming.
Ruby Gillman, on the other hand, looks terrible. Awful character designs. It should have gone straight to streaming.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
It would be helpful if you read the actual articles you're quoting completely my friend.Yes, April 30th, six weeks ago. Looking ahead at the summer season that began in May.
The point stands. $600 Million domestic box office for Elemental???
And if it performs on par with, or worse than, Lightyear... what then?
All predictions are for the Worldwide totals, not domestic. They state it in their first paragraphs:
"Here are our predictions for what the top 10 of the summer will look like and what the worldwide gross of each film may be: "
It was before any box office tracking had started on any of those films.
Also and if it does worse than Lightyear, so what? Disney/Pixar will regroup, Iger already stated they are going back to do Toy Story 5 and Inside Out 2. So we know it'll be sequels again for awhile with Pixar.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
I know it's not the end of Pixar, but I'm afraid their doom!Please tell me if I'm overreacting!
You're overreacting, again.
doctornick
Well-Known Member
Perhaps. But it would be odd to root for Elemental to fail.
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Oh, really? I thought it was domestic.
So Elemental makes $600 Million globally? That seems... doable. Right?
Disney Analyst
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Doesn’t seem like a stellar box office for any of the big films coming out. And with the ongoing writers strike, potential actors strike, and directors strike.. things aren’t looking great for Hollywood right now.
Disney Analyst
Well-Known Member
Some films will continue to do insane business, hello Avatar and Mario.
Others are still not seeing the rebound.
The box office in general is still not what it once was, despite some success stories.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Box office still lags, which is the point. There are only a handful of movies that have been successful, and honestly they aren't stellar movies either. Mario was just an ok movie filled with memberberries for Nintendo fans.
2023 is still shaping up to be down 25-30% overall from prepandemic levels, it may not recover until 2025 or beyond if ever.
MagicHappens1971
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I am so sick of this "Mario just made over $1.3 Billion Dollars" narrative.
We're halfway through the year, and only one film has broken the $B mark. The movie industry is not what is used to be pre-Covid.
| The Super Mario Bros. Movie | $1,315,451,610 | $570,272,610 | 43.4% | $745,179,000 | 56.6% | |
| 2 | Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 | $806,326,352 | $335,600,773 | 41.6% | $470,725,579 | 58.4% |
| 3 | Fast X | $653,627,970 | $138,201,970 | 21.1% | $515,426,000 | 78.9% |
| 4 | Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania | $476,069,301 | $214,503,030 | 45.1% | $261,566,271 | 54.9% |
| 5 | John Wick: Chapter 4 | $428,191,328 | $187,077,847 | 43.7% | $241,113,481 |
2022 Top 5 Grossing Films
| 1 | Avatar: The Way of Water | $2,320,250,281 | $684,075,767 | 29.5% | $1,636,174,514 | 70.5% |
| 2 | Top Gun: Maverick | $1,495,696,292 | $718,732,821 | 48.1% | $776,963,471 | 51.9% |
| 3 | Jurassic World: Dominion | $1,001,978,080 | $376,851,080 | 37.6% | $625,127,000 | 62.4% |
| 4 | Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness | $955,775,804 | $411,331,607 | 43% | $544,444,197 | 57% |
| 5 | Minions: The Rise of Gru | $939,628,210 | $369,695,210 | 39.3% | $569,933,000 |
2021
| Spider-Man: No Way Home | $1,912,233,593 | $804,793,477 | 42.1% | $1,107,440,116 | 57.9% | |
| 2 | The Battle at Lake Changjin | $902,548,476 | $342,411 | <0.1% | $902,206,065 | 100% |
| 3 | Hi, Mom | $822,009,764 | - | - | $822,009,764 | 100% |
| 4 | No Time to Die | $774,153,007 | $160,891,007 | 20.8% | $613,262,000 | 79.2% |
| 5 | F9: The Fast Saga | $726,229,501 | $173,005,945 | 23.8% | $553,223,556 |
2019
| 1 | Avengers: Endgame | $2,799,439,100 | $858,373,000 | 30.7% | $1,941,066,100 | 69.3% |
| 2 | The Lion King | $1,656,943,394 | $543,638,043 | 32.8% | $1,113,305,351 | 67.2% |
| 3 | Frozen II | $1,450,026,933 | $477,373,578 | 32.9% | $972,653,355 | 67.1% |
| 4 | Spider-Man: Far from Home | $1,131,927,996 | $390,532,085 | 34.5% | $741,395,911 | 65.5% |
| 5 | Captain Marvel | $1,128,274,794 | $426,829,839 | 37.8% | $701,444,955 | 62.2% |
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wtyy21
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However, Elemental did not yet receive an audience score. Meanwhile, DC-made The Flash, despite having lower Rotten Tomatoes score than Elemental (72%) due to Ezra Miller scandal, but the film have a audience score of 98%.
spacemt354
Chili's
I don't think the film industry should be defined by how many films each year reach $1 Billion because many of those numbers rely on tentpole franchises to release highly anticipated sequels, prequels, or remakes to established franchises. So the number of films that make a billion can be predicted based on past trends and not some new phenomenon.
Halfway through 2023 has already seen the same # of Billion dollar films as 2014 in total.
Compare that to the 9 $1 Billion films in 2019, a year which was fortunate to include:
The most anticipated film ever (Avengers Endgame)
The lead up to the most anticipated film ever (Captain Marvel)
The continuation of the most anticipated film ever + a Spider-Man film (Far From Home)
Sequel to the highest grossing animated film at the time (Frozen II)
Sequel and conclusion of the Skywalker saga (Rise of Skywalker)
Sequel and conclusion(?) of the Toy Story franchise (Toy Story 4)
Remakes to two of the most beloved Disney animated classics (Lion King and Aladdin)
The one curveball billion film was Joker but that could speak to the quality of the performance and the legacy of the Joker character/Batman lore. Which ironically is the same type of 'narrative' for why Mario is so successful, as it's an entertaining film that appeases fans from a legacy brand.
vikescaper
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The Flash has had fan screenings so that is why there is an audience score. I haven’t heard of any early previews for Elemental so that is why it doesn’t have an audience score.
WorldExplorer
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Every character I've seen in this is ugly.
I know it's not a very well fleshed out thought, but I saw the plushes they released and dear God. Every character is ugly.
I know it's not a very well fleshed out thought, but I saw the plushes they released and dear God. Every character is ugly.
TalkingHead
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Visually discordant to put it mildly. Looks like half a dozen animation styles thrown into a blender.
