Elemental (Pixar - June 2023)

[Phroobar]

Eh, I think the Black Cauldron didn't work due to bland characters, lackluster worldbuilding, poor pacing and a weak climax. The art style and the dark tone were not the issues with the movie. If it were a great movie but dark, it would have eventually built up a reputation and a much stronger fandom over the years. But it's simply not good enough.

Black Cauldon was suppose to be the movie to bring Disney back on the map. It was suppose to be the movie that passed the torch from the nine old men to new young artists like Don Bluth and Richard Rich. The movie became four years behind schedule when Don Bluth lead an exodus of animators away from Disney. The animation department was in chaos.

How The Black Cauldron Nearly Killed Disney Animation

The true, never-before-told story of how Disney's 1985 film The Black Cauldron nearly killed Disney Animation and why the production was plagued with issues

collider.com

 

[Tha Realest]

You left out Princess and the Frog during that era that grossed significantly less than both Bolt and Chicken Little.

And killed hand drawn animation as we know it

 

[TP2000]

Article is a bit outdated there my friend, its from April....

Yes, April 30th, six weeks ago. Looking ahead at the summer season that began in May.

The point stands. $600 Million domestic box office for Elemental???

And if it performs on par with, or worse than, Lightyear... what then?

 

[TsWade2]

I know it's not the end of Pixar, but I'm afraid their doom! Please tell me if I'm overreacting!

 

[Ghost93]

Yes, April 30th, six weeks ago. Looking ahead at the summer season that began in May.

The point stands. $600 Million domestic box office for Elemental???

And if it performs on par with, or worse than, Lightyear... what then?

They had to have meant worldwide. Not even the most popular Pixar franchises — like Toy Story 3/4 or Finding Dory — made that much domestically. Incredibles 2 is the only Pixar movie to have made $600 million or more at the domestic box office. Here is the list (not adjusted for inflation): https://www.boxofficemojo.com/brand/bn3530750466/

 

[Miss Jennifer]

Eh, I think the Black Cauldron didn't work due to bland characters, lackluster worldbuilding, poor pacing and a weak climax. The art style and the dark tone were not the issues with the movie. If it were a great movie but dark, it would have eventually built up a reputation and a much stronger fandom over the years. But it's simply not good enough.

That, and the fact that they tried to smush two/three books of material into one movie. It was both too much and too little...too much plot density, and too little character development.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I know it's not the end of Pixar, but I'm afraid their doom! Please tell me if I'm overreacting!

It would be nice if these wannabe film portals would source their claims. I'm not saying that someone somewhere doesn't have it at $35M, but *who* is saying that?

 

[Tha Realest]

Pixar is not doomed, but good lord, what the hell with this site, with people rooting for Disney to fail on thread after thread after thread. Some need to find a new hobby ASAP.

Pixar is one of the greatest brands/divisions in the history of film. I desperately want them to return to their glory years. I’m on the record as saying Disney is doing itself NO favors with the release calendar. Four tent pole films in a two month span is corporate malfeasance. Then again, if they produce films like the last few all the marketing in the world can’t save them.

They need to get back to 1) making good appealing films with 2) a corporate hierarchy that doesn’t set them up to fail.

 

[Tha Realest]

It would be nice if these wannabe film portals would source their claims. I'm not saying that someone somewhere doesn't have it at $35M, but *who* is saying that?

Long Range Box Office Forecast: INSIDIOUS: THE RED DOOR and JOY RIDE

This week's report takes a look at two new releases slated for the post-Independence Day holiday weekend, plus updated tracking for other upcoming titles.

www.boxofficepro.com

 

[MisterPenguin]

Long Range Box Office Forecast: INSIDIOUS: THE RED DOOR and JOY RIDE

This week's report takes a look at two new releases slated for the post-Independence Day holiday weekend, plus updated tracking for other upcoming titles.

www.boxofficepro.com

Thank-you.

But it's frustrating they only look at Domestic BO.

 

[BuddyThomas]

Elemental is currently 78% positive on Rotten Tomatoes. The film I want to see most this weekend is The Blackening, but I will definitely see Elemental as well, probably Thursday night,

 

[Ghost93]

Elemental is currently 78% positive on Rotten Tomatoes. The film I want to see most this weekend is The Blackening, but I will definitely see Elemental as well, probably Thursday night,

I want to see Elemental in a Dolby, but it only gets Dolby in the daytime, whereas the Flash gets the nighttime screenings. Since I work, I plan to see the Flash Thursday night, Asteroid City Friday night, Elemental during the day on Saturday and the Blackening during a weeknight next week. I'm very thankful for AMC-A list, otherwise, I wouldn't be able to afford all of these movies.

 

[BuddyThomas]

I want to see Elemental in a Dolby, but it only gets Dolby in the daytime, whereas the Flash gets the nighttime screenings. Since I work, I plan to see the Flash Thursday night, Asteroid City Friday night, Elemental during the day on Saturday and the Blackening during a weeknight next week. I'm very thankful for AMC-A list, otherwise, I wouldn't be able to afford all of these movies.

I didn’t realize so many movies were opening this weekend!

 

[Ghost93]

I didn’t realize so many movies were opening this weekend!

June is WAAAY overcrowded. Elemental should have moved to July 28 (With Haunted Mansion moving to October) and Transformers 5 should have moved to August.

 

[DCBaker]

It would be nice if these wannabe film portals would source their claims. I'm not saying that someone somewhere doesn't have it at $35M, but *who* is saying that?

I believe those numbers are making the rounds today from this Matt Belloni tweet -

 

[TsWade2]

I believe those numbers are making the round today from this Matt Belloni tweet -

I guess Elemental flops. Sigh!

 

[Magenta Panther]

If that tracking holds up, that's kinda too bad for Elemental. I thought it looked cute. Does Pixar have so little clout with the public now? How times have changed.

Ruby Gillman, on the other hand, looks terrible. Awful character designs. It should have gone straight to streaming.

 

[Disney Irish]

Yes, April 30th, six weeks ago. Looking ahead at the summer season that began in May.

The point stands. $600 Million domestic box office for Elemental???

And if it performs on par with, or worse than, Lightyear... what then?

It would be helpful if you read the actual articles you're quoting completely my friend.

All predictions are for the Worldwide totals, not domestic. They state it in their first paragraphs:

"Here are our predictions for what the top 10 of the summer will look like and what the worldwide gross of each film may be: "

It was before any box office tracking had started on any of those films.

Also and if it does worse than Lightyear, so what? Disney/Pixar will regroup, Iger already stated they are going back to do Toy Story 5 and Inside Out 2. So we know it'll be sequels again for awhile with Pixar.

 

[Disney Irish]

I know it's not the end of Pixar, but I'm afraid their doom! Please tell me if I'm overreacting!

You're overreacting, again.

 

[doctornick]

I don’t think anyone wants Pixar to fail. Just certain movies to fail.

Perhaps. But it would be odd to root for Elemental to fail.