DVC... Contemps south Wing is safe for now.

devoy1701

Well-Known Member
Saratoga Springs Resort did not sell for even close to that amount for the first 2 years. I paid $71.00 per point in 2003.

I wish I could have gotten in at your price!

Last time we flirted with the idea was about 3 years ago and I think for the current resorts they were at $104/pt.
 

PhilharMagician

Well-Known Member
I wish I could have gotten in at your price!

Last time we flirted with the idea was about 3 years ago and I think for the current resorts they were at $104/pt.

Yeah, times (and prices) have changed. What is the price now $125 - $130 per point? I have looked at adding on points, but I cannot imagine paying the price now! Maybe some resale points, but I find I am happy with what I have.

Look at resales. The longer you wait the more they go up.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Hmmm...link took me to a different page entirely. :shrug:

3rd post in the linked thread.

That info is exactly what I was referring to in my original post. Multiply the number of villas by the cost to book each room for a full year and you get the number of points at the resort (with some margin for error.)

But the cost is variable per season.. so the number of components to add up is tedious. Easier to work just right from the budget (if you have the numbers)
 

PhilharMagician

Well-Known Member
One thing I forgot to add earlier, is that SSR is officially sold out and the only DVC currently being maketed is Aulani and AKV. Aulani is not really relevant to WDW, AKV is and it is at about 68% sold of the 75% that has been declared by DVD. There are still quite a few points to declare from AKV and expect an anouncement declaring more points available from DVD soon. The GF DVC is only a small addition to the DVC family and expect that to go quite fast at a high price.
 

Magenta Panther

Well-Known Member
Buffalo Junction sounds pretty awesome.

But I'm holding out on a DVC membership until Disney builds something along the lines of fantasy-medieval. THAT I wouldn't be able to resist.
 

GLaDOS

Well-Known Member
Sorry, but I just can't get excited for yet another hotel/DVC while the parks flounder, no matter how cool the design is.
 

NYwdwfan

Well-Known Member
Martin - yet again you cost me hours of productivity at work while I google WDW concepts of years past (thank you - I was bored out of my skull today!!)
 

tjkraz

Active Member
But the cost is variable per season.. so the number of components to add up is tedious. Easier to work just right from the budget (if you have the numbers)

Agree...if one has the numbers. I do not have what I would consider to be reliable numbers for Bay Lake Tower since it is not yet sold out. The 2012 budget may or may not include all available points.

As for the different seasons, use any of the many on-line or off-line point calculators and enter a stay which starts on January 1 and ends on December 31. Not complicated at all.

If you choose to use a different method, more power to you. Good luck tracking down the numbers.
 

PhilharMagician

Well-Known Member
Points info like this.

From DVCNews.com

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flynnibus

Premium Member
at 5+ million points and at what is probably upwards of $120+ per point I don't see any question about why Disney keeps building DVC units.. Probably doubling or tripling their money in ~5 years is pretty good return.

Its interestingly they don't even come close to breaking out DVC revenue in their reports from Parks&Resorts. If the total unit makes about 1.5 billion a year.. kinda scarey to realize something like BLT may represent something like 7-10% of total segment profit per year during selling phase.
 

WDW1974

Well-Known Member
I will still be surprised if they put DVC there before they add at the Poly and the Buena Vista Dr locations.

And not to take anything away from my pal Martin, but I wrote about this quite a while ago and Disney gadfly Lee MacDonald reported it well over a year ago too, I believe.

I also wonder what this does with the Blue Sky (how far out is anyone's guess) to place DVC in/adjacent to the WS at EPCOT.

I have to lament anything going on at River Country at this point. That place was so magical and so much a part of my WDW vacations from 1976 through 2001 ... a whole lot more important than the Orange Bird. Nothing like splashing around in a real lake while watching Fantasy in the Sky burst over the Contemporary and Space Mountain. So many fun and lazy days ... and now it's a freaking wasteland.

I am sure not many of the WDW fans of the 21st century really care ... because the WDW I fell in love with existed in the 20th century and so much has simply been destroyed.

~Shout out to Jenn Baker and the Celebration Place Social Media Cabal!~
 

NoChesterHester

Well-Known Member
Your welcome :D

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Wilderness_Junction

http://www.disneydrawingboard.com/WDW/MKArea/Wilderness%20Junction/WildernessJunction.html

http://progresscityusa.com/2009/06/04/the-coolest-thing-youll-see-today/

http://jimhillmedia.com/editor_in_chief1/b/jim_hill/archive/2004/11/09/492.aspx
 

PhilharMagician

Well-Known Member
I will still be surprised if they put DVC there before they add at the Poly and the Buena Vista Dr locations.

And not to take anything away from my pal Martin, but I wrote about this quite a while ago and Disney gadfly Lee MacDonald reported it well over a year ago too, I believe.

I also wonder what this does with the Blue Sky (how far out is anyone's guess) to place DVC in/adjacent to the WS at EPCOT.

I have to lament anything going on at River Country at this point. That place was so magical and so much a part of my WDW vacations from 1976 through 2001 ... a whole lot more important than the Orange Bird. Nothing like splashing around in a real lake while watching Fantasy in the Sky burst over the Contemporary and Space Mountain. So many fun and lazy days ... and now it's a freaking wasteland.

I am sure not many of the WDW fans of the 21st century really care ... because the WDW I fell in love with existed in the 20th century and so much has simply been destroyed.

~Shout out to Jenn Baker and the Celebration Place Social Media Cabal!~


Poly is a tough one. There is not a whole lot of room in the Poly resort for additional buildings without some serious changes to the resort. Do they put a new building to the west of Fiji? Do they put a building out on the peninsula? Neither are great locations. There are rumors that the resort in 2013 may have the Great Ceremonial House completely replaced, but would this be the time to resturcture the entire resort to add DVC? If they added DVC to the Poly it would be 75 units? Right now DVD's inventory is very low and they will need another large addition to the pot. I think if they are thinking about something new on LBV Dr then that is an option, but the Wilderness location is also a good option with the possibility of 300 or more units.


I understand you angiuish over River Country, but as you say it is a wasteland and it just needs to be cleaned up and put to rest. The same should be said of Discovery Island. When you take a lauch over to FW it is a dreadful sight looking at the RC wasteland on one side and the old bird sanctuary netting hanging in trees and torn up on the other. :mad: To me that is bad show.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Original Poster
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And not to take anything away from my pal Martin, but I wrote about this quite a while ago and Disney gadfly Lee MacDonald reported it well over a year ago too, I believe.
NO.... Too late...... :mad: :fork: boo hoo hoo....

:D

That's what added fuel to the fire. An old rumour popping its head up again. And one I'm told is closer to a shade of green than it was a year ago.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
Bring back the train!

Exactly. Or even better extend the track to serve WL and PO. It can fit will with both themes. Then run paralell tracks so that the train can run a loop. add another train or two and soon you have a complete high capacity transport system that can serve 5 different resorts. :lookaroun
 

WDW1974

Well-Known Member
Poly is a tough one. There is not a whole lot of room in the Poly resort for additional buildings without some serious changes to the resort. Do they put a new building to the west of Fiji? Do they put a building out on the peninsula? Neither are great locations. There are rumors that the resort in 2013 may have the Great Ceremonial House completely replaced, but would this be the time to resturcture the entire resort to add DVC? If they added DVC to the Poly it would be 75 units? Right now DVD's inventory is very low and they will need another large addition to the pot. I think if they are thinking about something new on LBV Dr then that is an option, but the Wilderness location is also a good option with the possibility of 300 or more units.

I don't think Disney gives one (pooh) whether there's land ... they'll make it happen. There wasn't land for the Beach Club Villas and they wedged them in (terribly IMHO) on swamps on top of a roadway and EPCOT's backstage. Same with the GF ... there was never a plan for hotel expansion on that land ... they are so greedy they destroyed the tennis courts and closed the spa for two years (again, they think this is a 5-star resort? yeah ...:lol::D:rolleyes:) and have construction that is shutting down the monorail now during for seven hours a day?!?!

They want DVC at the Poly. They'll put it there no matter what they ruin in the process. It is ridiculous that instead of having seperate resorts, DVC has taken over (ruined?) every deluxe resort on property except for two (one of which is now getting it!)

I understand you angiuish over River Country, but as you say it is a wasteland and it just needs to be cleaned up and put to rest. The same should be said of Discovery Island. When you take a lauch over to FW it is a dreadful sight looking at the RC wasteland on one side and the old bird sanctuary netting hanging in trees and torn up on the other. :mad: To me that is bad show.

RC should be cleaned up ... but I believe nothing should go there ... certainly not a massive timeshare resort that will result in fundamentally destroying the atmosphere of the last peaceful green space of the FLA project that is open to guests. DVC means cars and buses and chopping down trees to expand roadways ... it means killing FW.

Clean RC up ... get rid of it and open it up as greenspace or picnic area etc ... but DVC? ... please :hurl::hurl::hurl:
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
In my personal opinion.. I doubt it.

Everyone are park commandos now.. people rarely use the resort recreation options anymore. It's the death spiral of the vacation resort into simply 'parks+food+sleeping'
 

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