FigmentJedi
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That's primarily from the quick loading on those attractions that the wait times are short, though mainly applying to Mansion.
Woody13 said:Sorry, but I think the Pixar brains are going to be creative. Bringing back Dreamfinder is old hat, button shoe thinking. Maybe they'll bring back the penny arcade on Main Street too! :lol:
dxwwf3 said:I think that is 100% accurate. Before the POTC film came out, when can you ever remember there being more than a 5 minute wait on a normal, crowded Summer day? I can't.
And the HM doesn't hardly ever have large wait times.
Epcot82Guy said:Actually, this is not true except perhaps for WoM. Horizons was doing fine until Disney basically stopped advertising it. Even then it was doing fairly well. IMAG was still posting moderate wait times, and it was changed moreso out of agreement with Kodak than any decision by the Disney company. While these were not posting 30 minute wait times all day long, they were holding their own, especially when you take into account the capacity for these attractions. Were there parts that could have been better? of course, but I would argue the first half of IMAG was as good as any dark attraction Disney has made. Additionally, you now no longer have "competition" from the other pavilions with SSE really being the only ride like this left at this point in Epcot.
I think a poll of guests, even "non-dweeby," will find a stronger interest in the original than wait times for a high capacity attraction would suggest. After all, Pirates, Mansion, and JC have all stood at low wait times even during peak times before, and I don't think anyone questions the strength of these attractions.
Just my $0.02
:wave: Exactly what I thought reading the article. IF this is true... it's a big step backwards.Woody13 said:The main point of Jim Hill's article was that the restoration of Dreamfinder to JII would be a symbolic gesture by the new Pixar brains to demonstrate their unbridled commitment to making excellent attractions. Unfortunately, JII, Horizons and WoM were never great attractions in the first place.
Only a certain group of hard core Disney Dweebs had the hots for those attractions. I remember that all of them were walk-ons even during busy times at Epcot. They were just kind of average rides.
So, Disney buys Pixar and then the Pixar brains pull a brilliant move and they restore Dreamfinder to JII. Wow! Disney sure paid a lot of money to get creative talent that can't do anything more than follow the advice of a bunch of Disney Dweeb message board members. :lol:
Sorry, but I think the Pixar brains are going to be creative. Bringing back Dreamfinder is old hat, button shoe thinking. Maybe they'll bring back the penny arcade on Main Street too! :lol:
Epcot82Guy said:Actually, this is not true except perhaps for WoM. Horizons was doing fine until Disney basically stopped advertising it. Even then it was doing fairly well.
wannab@dis said:IF this is true... it's a big step backwards.
wannab@dis said:What's even more of a shame, they want to bring it back. That's a bigger mistake than SGE. :wave:
Woody13 said:I remember that all of them were walk-ons even during busy times at Epcot.
Why waste R & D time and money, construction costs and new technology to bring back an old idea? How is that even remotely creative?dxwwf3 said:No it wouldn't be. How would it be a step backwards? If they add state of the art technology and put more money into the attraction to make it better, how is it a step backwards? Just because they MIGHT add an old character back to the attraction doesn't mean it will ruin the attraction. Remember not everything old is evil and will harm your children. They did bring BACK Figment and that was overall more positive than the 2nd incarnation of the ride.
It sounds to me like you would rather have no new attraction than one that brought something back with new technology. And that makes no sense to me :wave:
wannab@dis said:Why waste R & D time and money, construction costs and new technology to bring back an old idea? How is that even remotely creative?
wannabe@dis said:The only people that would see this idea as creative are those "Disney Dweebs"...
Well, maybe some. But most of those "dweebs" (or purists, anti-change, etc) think this is a grand idea MAINLY because it mentioned Dreamfinder. Go back and read the posts here. There's no denying that fact.dxwwf3 said:It's not the Dreamfinder that's making some of us excited. It is much more than that and if you can just delete any mention of the Dreamfinder in that article, I think you'll see it too.
wannab@dis said:Well, maybe some. But most of those "dweebs" (or purists, anti-change, etc) think this is a grand idea MAINLY because it mentioned Dreamfinder. Go back and read the posts here. There's no denying that fact.
wannab@dis said:Of course... the purists that are stuck in the past rejoice that this MAY be true. If for no other reason than it gives them hope for Horizons or WoM being brought back.
Tahu said:A reintroduction of Dreamfinder wouldn't necessarily mean that newbie guests wouldn't enjoy it. If the new ride focused on a more creative setup in addition to the dynamic duo together again would make it fantastic, even to people who never knew of either.
dxer07002 said:Was this recently? I remember going for my first time in the mid 80's and waiting for Pirates outside of the queue.. It was hardly a walk on... I know the last two years I was able to walk on Pirates, with a minimal 5 minute wait.. But,years ago, during the summer, I rememebr long wait times.
dxwwf3 said:You haven't seen their plans or the attraction itself. Are you thinking that they are going to bring back the old attraction as it was? If that's the case, then I can see your point, But the way I read it is that we would be getting "state of the art technology" to bring a better attraction to the park. That's what has be excited, not just the fact that the Dreamfinder might come back.
So the only people that care about seeing another new addition to Epcot are Disney Dweebs? It seems to me that you are so against anything that used to be at WDW that you are missing the whole concept of this rumor. It's not the Dreamfinder that's making some of us excited. It is much more than that and if you can just delete any mention of the Dreamfinder in that article, I think you'll see it too.
dxwwf3 said:During most of the 90's it seemed that the waits for POTC were very, very low and the attraction was getting by because of its history and the song. And possibly even plans for a film :lol:
Now that the movie has been released, and there is anticipation for the new films, and upgrades are being made, I would say the days of the 5 minute POTC wait will be long gone for a while.
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