Does Micheal Eisner deserve a statue at Magic Kingdom?

Does Micheal Eisner deserve a statue at the Magic Kingdom?

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PhilharMagician

PhilharMagician

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devoy1701 said:
Have you even read about the company history? Roy E. was not so dumb (actually he was a very smart guy, just very shy and introverted) and was responsible for quite a bit of the success of Disney Animation in the 80s/90s.
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Is Roy E. Disney a real hero here? He & Gold are the ones that saw the future through Eisner and Wells and fought for them. Roy E. was also the one that saw that the time was up for Eisner and fought to get him out. If it wasn't for these 2 historic changes in Disney's top man then where would the Walt Disney Company be today?
 
PirateFrank

PirateFrank

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Jimmy Thick said:
Wells worked for Eisner, Eisner did not work for Wells. Nothing Wells did could not be done without Eisner's approval. This is one of the biggest myths within the world of Disney.

Not saying Wells did not have his place, but to say he was as important as Eisner is absurd.
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Myths? I'm not sure that I was perpetrating one and I am quite sure that you're misinterpreting what I said. Perhaps in an effort to diminish just how important Frank Wells was in the formula....however history isn't on your side. Eisner was *clearly* a different leader after Wells died.

Simply put, CEOs and Presidents/COOs work together all of the time, in every corporation in the US. Does that mean their job responsibilities and labor divisions don't exist? absolutely not.

Again...let's not discredit the fact that while Eisner may have had the ability to overrule Wells, Wells definitely provided a tempering/check&balance to Eisner. Without Wells in the picture, Eisner assumed Wells' day2day responsibilities and turned into a monster.

The proof is in the history. You can deny it all you want, but the results are there. Read Disney War. It'll open your eyes to the two sides of Eisner.
 
Sharkreef11

Sharkreef11

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Note that Eisner also was the driving force and almost caused the divorce between Pixar which would have been terrible. While Eisner did come in an actually take some action that lead to some good, he was run out of the company for a reason. He was a ball of controversy and there are several things that he did behind the scenes which are not appropriate to discuss in this family friendly forum. :brick: People don't make statues for people who are forced to leave. Building him a statue is a travesty and would upset the fan base.
 
JIMINYCR

JIMINYCR

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devoy1701 said:
Eisner didn't save the company. Roy and Stanley Gold and the Bass Brothers (and a few others) ultimately saved the company. Eisner was brought in immediately after saving the company and built it to the mutli-media empire it is today.
I'm not trying to belittle his accomplishments, but he was not the one who "saved" the company.
Let's get our facts straight.
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I voted no. Giving him credit for what he did during his time as CEO, he did a lot to help the company as a whole continue to make progress during tough times. But he did at the same time take credit for others work and made sure he benefited by taking millions of dollars in stock and other benefits from the company as compensation for his time, that is worth more than a statue. Plaque somewhere on property but certainly not deserving of a statue.
 
flavious27

flavious27

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No, this is why Disney has their Disney Legends awards. Also if they do add anymore statues in the parks, it should be either Roy E Disney or the Sherman Brothers.
 
J03Y

J03Y

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he was a big force through many of the new classic movies (Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Lion King etc.), and i agree, he was a very big driving force in the Disney World we know today.

however, he wasn't very favored amongst the people who worked for him. i don't see anything wrong in making a statue for him, or even a marble bust. he made a very big impact in the company. i just don't think it'll ever happen.
 
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DawnCt

Member
marni1971 said:
Mike was great until Frank left us. Then he kind of lost the plot.

So no, he doesn't deserve a statue. He has a building where he should have one and that's enough.
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You are absolutely correct! Not only does it seem that Eisner "lost the plot" but he lost his way. I thought that the book Disney War was very revealing. After Frank died, Eisner made a series of bad decisions, wasted company money on what could only be described as personal items, blew shareholder money on the hiring and firing of Jeff Katzenberg over what seemed more like jealousy than any real "threat", etc. With the death of Frank, it does bring into question, how many of those ideas were Eisner's and how many were actually Frank Well's?
 
nc_disneyfreak

nc_disneyfreak

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pardon my ignorance..

can someone in this forum point me in the right direction to read more about eisner? Im familiar with the name, but being a recent disneyfreak, i dont know too much about his tenure at disney...
thanks
 
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DawnCt

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nc_disneyfreak said:
can someone in this forum point me in the right direction to read more about eisner? Im familiar with the name, but being a recent disneyfreak, i dont know too much about his tenure at disney...
thanks
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I really liked this book. Some parts were dry but it was very "telling". http://www.amazon.com/Disney-War-James-B-Stewart/dp/0684809931 Read the first review about how the day the book came out, Disney went and bought all of the copies from the Burbank store and then later returned them.
 
powlessfamily4

powlessfamily4

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I voted no.. but not because he I feel he didn't do amazing things for Disney. I feel the only statues in Magic Kingdom should be of the two brothers who had a vision to bring smiles to children and families everywhere. I feel it is an hnor that should be reserved for the original imagineers, Walt & Roy. I have no problem remembering Eisner in another way, but that statues should be only for the family.
 
sublimesting

sublimesting

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The two gents who deserve statues already have them. I agree though that Eisner did a great deal for Disney and it wouldn't be where it is today without him. I actually wish he was there today doing what he did in his early term and having someone else handle financial.
 
Lisalyn

Lisalyn

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He was great for the DISNEY parks yes! But I voted no. Maybe if his name was Michael DISNEY than yes....I mean they ARE DISNEY parks...:p
 
devoy1701

devoy1701

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nc_disneyfreak said:
thanks for the quick reply!
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Also check out this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Work-Progress...5076/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1332348355&sr=8-2

It's written by Eisner. Kind of fun to read it first and then read DisneyWar. It's a great way to get "both sides" of what happened. This book doesn't cover quite as far as DisneyWar does (he wrote it while he was still CEO) and it is a bit watered down. But on the other side of things I think DisneyWar as slightly biased against Eisner. I'm sure the truth leans more towards Stewart's version of what happened, but it's still great to read both sides.

Eisner is a guy you love and you love to hate. And to this day he probably had the largest career implosion of any CEO.
 
Jimmy Thick

Jimmy Thick

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People are so quick to lean on the book Disney War as if its truth, when its just one version of one side. While the book might have some facts in it, its still just one side of a large story and obviously anti-Eisner.

Eisner did far more good than harm, and did more for Disney World than Walt or Roy.


Jimmy Thick-Or anyone named Disney...
 
devoy1701

devoy1701

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Jimmy Thick said:
People are so quick to lean on the book Disney War as if its truth, when its just one version of one side. While the book might have some facts in it, its still just one side of a large story and obviously anti-Eisner.

Eisner did far more good than harm, and did more for Disney World than Walt or Roy.


Jimmy Thick-Or anyone named Disney...
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obviously you read my comment....obviously. :rolleyes:
 

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