Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
The recession was long overdue, and, myself included, became accustomed to a robust economy...Covid was the domino that started the recession.
We finally agree on something.

It was vastly overdue and Inevitable...and Disney is the least prepared for this one than any of the 6-10 they have endured before.

It’s the pricing that’s different this time.
 

Kman101

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We finally agree on something.

It was vastly overdue and Inevitable...and Disney is the least prepared for this one than any of the 6-10 they have endured before.

It’s the pricing that’s different this time.
They're never prepared. And they've acted like they're going out of business since the 90s.
 

DVCakaCarlF

Well-Known Member
We finally agree on something.

It was vastly overdue and Inevitable...and Disney is the least prepared for this one than any of the 6-10 they have endured before.

It’s the pricing that’s different this time.
That being said, their business is the most “sensitive” to economic cycles.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
War, terrorism, natural disasters, flu season, SARS, H1N1, Oil Crisis, shuttle disasters, impeachment, etc...everything is more “intense” now because of social media.
The flu doesn’t impact travel

Hurricanes are disruptions on average for 3 or so days. Disney has closed for 4 total days due to hurricane in 48+ years

SARS and H1N1 were contained due to differences in virology, better leadership and some fortuitous luck.

The oil crisis was when Disney business was far smaller and required far less travelers to survive. Stock dynamics were also completely different then.

I don’t recall any impeachment restrictions in the parks...and no business was lost due to fear of falling shuttle debris.

Wars are good for business (rule of acquisition number 72)

And the terrorism analogy does not work...that is in my wheelhouse...don’t go there.

So again: what event can you point to that’s at all similar??
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
They're never prepared. And they've acted like they're going out of business since the 90s.
The price to value scale has never been so out of whack. It’s because of what they did before, during and after the last recession...

That ratio has what’s allowed them to easily navigate recessions before. It’s broken now.
 
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milordsloth

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War, terrorism, natural disasters, flu season, SARS, H1N1, Oil Crisis, shuttle disasters, impeachment, etc...everything is more “intense” now because of social media.
None of those were a reason to close WDW. This is so unprecedented because it is the first event since the parks opened that made it close for an extended period. We haven't seen a pandemic like this in a century, at least in terms of how the US was affected. Social media really didn't play much of a part in why the parks closed.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
None of those were a reason to close WDW. This is so unprecedented because it is the first event since the parks opened that made it close for an extended period. We haven't seen a pandemic like this in a century, at least in terms of how the US was affected. Social media really didn't play much of a part in why the parks closed.
Today was was the 117th day of closure for covid

4 for hurricanes
2.5 for international terrorism

That’s it
 

DisneyDebRob

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The flu doesn’t impact travle

Hurricanes are disruptions on average for 3 or so days. Disney has closed for 4 total days due to hurricane in 48+ years

SARS and H1N1 were contained due to differences in virology, better leadership and some fortuitous luck.

The oil crisis was when Disney business was far smaller and required far less travelers to survive. Stock dynamics were also completely different then.

I don’t recall any impeachment restrictions in the parks...and no business was lost due to fear of falling shuttle debris.

Wars are good for business (rule of acquisition number 72)

And the terrorism analogy does not work...that is in my wheelhouse...don’t go there.

So again: what event can you point to that’s at all similar??
Hate when I have to correct you. Not on most of your post which is correct. But rule of acquisitions 72 is Never let your competition know what your thinking.War is good for business is # 34. I’ll take my nerd A.. out of here now. Continue.🙂
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Hat when I have to correct you. Not on most of your post which is correct. But rule of acquisitions 72 is Never let your competition know what your thinking.War is good for business is # 34. I’ll take my nerd A.. out of here now. Continue.🙂
Lol...I was too lazy to look it up and picked a random number...

But now I know #35 is “peace is good for business”. Or was it 33??
 

Bwrinks

New Member
It started at $269 in 2002...just saying
For what it’s worth the price increase for the Poly Club Level Room from 2002 to 2011 outpaced inflation by 12.6%, assuming you are both comparing the same room type. I’d be curious what the jump was the last 9 years. I stayed in those rooms (non theme park view) a couple years back—need to look back and see what I paid.
 

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DisneyDebRob

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Sirwalterraleigh

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For what it’s worth the price increase for the Poly Club Level Room from 2002 to 2011 outpaced inflation by 12.6%, assuming you are both comparing the same room type. I’d be curious what the jump was the last 9 years. I stayed in those rooms (non theme park view) a couple years back—need to look back and see what I paid.
My doctorate was in this.

There was a severe upward ark on prices from the late 90’s through about 2008ish... and jumped again 2012-15...and has slowed somewhat.

They actually ran into their pricing wall at some places...wilderness lodge being the poster child.

The standard rates starting at WL in the year 2000 was $99 a night. And was $355 but time they stut half down and gutted them for timeshares in 2015.

...if you believe in “coincidences”
 

spock8113

Active Member
IMHO, if they don't delay like Disneyland, they are setting up to look just their governor, who by the way, is probably pressuring Disney because the unemployment rates for Orange and Osceola counties are 23.2% and 31.1% respectively. This may also be reason for the push to open schools so parents can go back to work at Disney. The Disney unions and the Florida teachers' Union are all saying there is too much rush just like re-opening in general. Regardless, here is Dr. Rebekah Jones' own COVID site for Florida that you can look at and decide what YOU want to do for yourself: https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/7572b118dc3c48d885d1c643c195314e/
 
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