Horizons '83
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Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?
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oceanbreeze77
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Why won't the positivity rate go down!?!?!?!?! 
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It looks pretty flat and unchanged over the last two weeks, good news if you ask me
. It will be nice when it goes down too and it might be but way too early to tell. Just need more testing and positivity will probably go down, not testing enough.
It looks pretty flat and unchanged over the last two weeks, good news if you ask me
. It will be nice when it goes down too and it might be but way too early to tell. Just need more testing and positivity will probably go down, not testing enough.
Jrb1979
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I'm not making this a Canada versus US thing but this might make those of you that believe everything is ok.
below are the new covid cases which were reported yesterday (Tuesday July 7th) in different jurisdictions. (note that different sources give slightly different statistics):
60,021 - United States (8.8x the population of Canada) 30x
8,631 - California (1.05x the population of Canada) 35x
7,347 - Florida (0.6x the population of Canada) 50x
1,010 - Orange County, California (0.085x the population of Canada) 50x
361 - Orange County, Florida (0.037x the population of Canada) 40x
232 - Canada
The bolded number gives an indication of how much worse the jurisdiction is doing when compared to Canada, taking into account population size.
below are the new covid cases which were reported yesterday (Tuesday July 7th) in different jurisdictions. (note that different sources give slightly different statistics):
60,021 - United States (8.8x the population of Canada) 30x
8,631 - California (1.05x the population of Canada) 35x
7,347 - Florida (0.6x the population of Canada) 50x
1,010 - Orange County, California (0.085x the population of Canada) 50x
361 - Orange County, Florida (0.037x the population of Canada) 40x
232 - Canada
The bolded number gives an indication of how much worse the jurisdiction is doing when compared to Canada, taking into account population size.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Eh, you have sort of done this since the beginning.
I think everyone understands the US has some significant issues right now with the virus. The largest area of disagreement in here revolves around what to do about it. And I don't think this disagreement will change anytime soon.
What board have you been reading, or alternatively what have you been smoking because I want what you’re on
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Jrb1979
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I only bring it up cause I have seen how first hand what we have done is working. I don't understand why it can't be done in the places where cases are rising
another note on how looking at the daily "spikes" how data is back logged. One example yesterday Alleghany county reported 6 new deaths for the county, in reality they had none that were new that day, the deaths were cumulative over the past 3 weeks but reported as new, The county had to clarify. Same with AZ big spike of deaths yesterday at 117 but those were also mostly backlogged deaths. The had only 1 death the day before. The trends are the key, but news is not reporting it that way.
Heppenheimer
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I saw there was an anti-mask protest in Toronto. It was tiny and based on the comments I read, almost universally condemned. Several of the comments stated things like "If you love freedom so much, take a trip to Florida right now and see how that goes for you."
About those case numbers, this might be promising, over 90% of strains are this new mutation
www.12news.com
Strain of COVID-19 that may spread more, be less deadly linked to most of Arizona's cases
A mutation of COVID-19 called D614G is likely more easily spread between people, and might be less deadly.
www.12news.com
That is correct. Many in the media, not to mention many people just talking on forums, don't understand the data on which they are commenting.
Using the Arizona number as an example -- It's important to understand there wasn't a sudden huge spike in deaths yesterday -- But those deaths were really spread out over several days, or even several weeks. Thus, it has to be examined in that light -- yesterday was not a sudden big spike, but there has been significant increase over the last few days/week, even if we are just getting the reporting of those numbers now.
That's very important -- appreciation that the data we are seeing is actually a window into the past. And how far into the past is variable.
For those saying, for example, "Florida isn't showing much increased death" -- We really just don't know. A backlogged number of an extra 300 deaths may suddenly be released. Similarly, somewhat high numbers does not mean that things are actively getting worse -- they may represent a peak that is already past.
Thus, the data is best examined in averages over a period of time, and looking at general trends. And then realizing those trends are themselves a bit delayed.
Thus, we shouldn't take too much comfort in "low death numbers" while hospitalizations and infections increase. Because with the death count lag, we will really not know anything for certain until we are looking with hindsight.
Similarly, because of the lag, relatively high death numbers can be just a remnant from long past peaks. Take Pennsylvania for example -- today reported 23 deaths. That's not all that low. They also reported 36 deaths yesterday. Considering they are only getting about 500 new infections per day, that would appear to be an incredible death rate. Until you realize that those deaths are still lagging from a peak over two months ago.
Part of the question is whether you take all these unknowns and use them as a basis for erring on the side of caution, or using the uncertainty as an excuse to throw caution to the wind.
About those case numbers, this might be promising, over 90% of strains are this new mutation
Strain of COVID-19 that may spread more, be less deadly linked to most of Arizona's cases
A mutation of COVID-19 called D614G is likely more easily spread between people, and might be less deadly.
Just be warned, this "new mutation" is what hit New York and Italy really hard. Remains unclear whether it's any less deadly than the Asian strain.
But it would not be unusual to mutate in a less deadly fashion over time. Natural selection favors less deadly viruses, as they can't spread if they kill their host. (In fact, a virus with an extremely high fatality rate can be among the least dangerous, because they will kill their hosts before they can spread into a pandemic).
chrisvee
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yes many of us wonder the same thing
Heppenheimer
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This story was really poorly reported when it first hit the wires. The "new strain" has been predominant in the US since March. This isn't anything "new" as far as we're concerned in the US.
Rider
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AdventHealth sees surge in COVID-19 admissions, shifts staff for ‘Phase 2 emergency’
The number of COVID-19 patients at AdventHealth hospitals has “grown significantly over the last week,” so the system is activating an emergency plan for more doctors to deal with the s…
www.orlandosentinel.com
The number of COVID-19 patients at AdventHealth hospitals has “grown significantly over the last week,” so the system is redeploying medical staff to deal with the surge, it said in an email to staff obtained by the Orlando Sentinel.
The hospital system has declared a “Phase 2 emergency” that will allow emergency privileging for medical staff to assist where needed, and it has increased nighttime staffing on multiple campuses, said the email sent Tuesday night.
“As we predicted in May, the Central Florida area is experiencing a surge in COVID-19 admissions,” the email said. “... We are identifying additional needs and potential sources for additional clinicians in the coming weeks.”
The number of hospitalized patients has been steadily growing in the past several weeks, following the phased reopening of the state.
As of Wednesday morning, 10 ICUs were at full capacity at hospitals across Central Florida, twice the number of full ICUs on Monday.
Interesting FL stat breakdown and falls right in with CDC's estimate of 99.97% survival rate for those under 50 and only .16% off of the 99.74% overall rate.
Over 150K cases of Covid19 have been found in FL since June.
50K of those are over 45 yrs old resulting in 600 deaths
100K are under 45 yrs old & have resulted in 28 deaths (all had multiple underlying issues)
Over 150K cases of Covid19 have been found in FL since June.
50K of those are over 45 yrs old resulting in 600 deaths
100K are under 45 yrs old & have resulted in 28 deaths (all had multiple underlying issues)
Parker in NYC
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AdventHealth sees surge in COVID-19 admissions, shifts staff for ‘Phase 2 emergency’
The number of COVID-19 patients at AdventHealth hospitals has “grown significantly over the last week,” so the system is activating an emergency plan for more doctors to deal with the s…
The number of COVID-19 patients at AdventHealth hospitals has “grown significantly over the last week,” so the system is redeploying medical staff to deal with the surge, it said in an email to staff obtained by the Orlando Sentinel.
The hospital system has declared a “Phase 2 emergency” that will allow emergency privileging for medical staff to assist where needed, and it has increased nighttime staffing on multiple campuses, said the email sent Tuesday night.
“As we predicted in May, the Central Florida area is experiencing a surge in COVID-19 admissions,” the email said. “... We are identifying additional needs and potential sources for additional clinicians in the coming weeks.”
The number of hospitalized patients has been steadily growing in the past several weeks, following the phased reopening of the state.
As of Wednesday morning, 10 ICUs were at full capacity at hospitals across Central Florida, twice the number of full ICUs on Monday.
Looks like those ICU reservations may be harder to get than Be Our Guest! I hope savvy WDW guests have a plan.
Parker in NYC
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Wait, Florida is delaying things 'til 2022?