Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

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DVCakaCarlF

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The Mom said:
There are certain things that require face to face appointments. For instance, if a spouse dies and his/her name needs to be removed from an account. Loans, etc that some people are not comfortable doing online. getting something out of a safety deposit box.

Most of these things can be delayed, but many people were not comfortable delaying any longer.
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Notary services require a signature in person.
 
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mellyf

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DisneyDebRob said:
Just posted this in the other thread in case some don’t venture over. Texas medical Association put this chart out.
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Okay, sincere question...how is sending kids to school (and there are adults there as well) and working in an office safer than going to a movie, eating inside a restaurant, or going to an amusement park? You're in an enclosed space for hours. Those are the two things in the moderate risk category that I honestly do not understand...why aren't they at least moderate-high.
 
Mainahman

Mainahman

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Lilofan said:
Several times rainstorms daily and with the front of MK having pouring rain and the back of the park bright and sunny.
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Yep! Been there! Never will I forget ankle deep water one year in DHS. Tried to shelter in the backlog express restaurant, and almost had to swim out.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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mellyf said:
Okay, sincere question...how is sending kids to school (and there are adults there as well) and working in an office safer than going to a movie, eating inside a restaurant, or going to an amusement park? You're in an enclosed space for hours. Those are the two things in the moderate risk category that I honestly do not understand...why aren't they at least moderate-high.
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Probably because it is the same people. In those other venues it is a stream of different people.
 
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crawale

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brifraz said:
Also of note, Florida had a new high number of tests reported on Saturday. Hope they can continue to achieve that without continuing to set the new cases record.
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These are just positive tests. Not hospitalizations, not deaths. This is herd immunity developing. The more people who test positive the more the rate of death goes down. I don't understand why people think more cases are the end of the world. Look to the facts. Look to the decreasing death rates and stop believing what you hear on CNN.
 
schuelma

schuelma

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crawale said:
These are just positive tests. Not hospitalizations, not deaths. This is herd immunity developing. The more people who test positive the more the rate of death goes down. I don't understand why people think more cases are the end of the world. Look to the facts. Look to the decreasing death rates and stop believing what you hear on CNN.
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We are not close to developing herd immunity.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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crawale said:
These are just positive tests. Not hospitalizations, not deaths. This is herd immunity developing. The more people who test positive the more the rate of death goes down. I don't understand why people think more cases are the end of the world. Look to the facts. Look to the decreasing death rates and stop believing what you hear on CNN.
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There’s is absolutely no evidence of this...none.

If you don’t get your “news” from cable pundit shows...you might have noticed that the largest studies on antibodies, natural resistance are being conducted in Europe and the indications thus far show that there are low antibody rates...suggesting reinfection is a strong possibility to those already exposed.

So there cannot be herd immunity by definition unless there is research to indicate that is incorrect. So far there isn’t.

The truth shall set you free.

The best course - in lieu of vaccines which are far from guaranteed - is contract tracing/isolation to contain flashes of infection.

Sometimes you don’t win the ballgame and have to settle for the participation trophy.
 
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techgeek

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GoofGoof said:
Like someone else posted, there are studies being done continuously and we will eventually have more information. However, decisions have to be made now based on the best information available. We can’t just do nothing and wait for studies to be published. We have a good basic understanding of how respiratory viruses spread and based on that understanding it’s pretty easy to get a ballpark idea of which activities are risky and which are not. Indoor dining is definitely more risky than outdoor dining and when you factor in the no masks more risky than a lot of other indoor activities. That doesn’t mean we have to shut down all restaurants now but in the pecking order when things start to get pulled back it’s high on the list.
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For me, a lot of these things come down to simple common sense. Science can overrule our best instinct, but if you have to ask the question if an activity is safe or not... well... you're probably not truly asking the question, you're just looking for the excuse.
 
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techgeek

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mellyf said:
Okay, sincere question...how is sending kids to school (and there are adults there as well) and working in an office safer than going to a movie, eating inside a restaurant, or going to an amusement park? You're in an enclosed space for hours. Those are the two things in the moderate risk category that I honestly do not understand...why aren't they at least moderate-high.
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lazyboy97o said:
Probably because it is the same people. In those other venues it is a stream of different people.
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This can be a big part of it. In the office, you probably only have a few truly close contacts. Maybe a friend you hang out with for lunch, the person in the next cube over, your immediate boss... etc.

Schools I think are more problematic, but with proper contact tracing could be safely managed. My middle-school nephew here in Orange County already was talking about how they probably wouldn't let them change classes, staying with one teacher to try to cut down individual connections. Keep kids in one class and if you have an issue pop up in that classroom, at least you can isolate the single class and not necessarily have to close down the whole school.
 
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DVCakaCarlF

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crawale said:
These are just positive tests. Not hospitalizations, not deaths. This is herd immunity developing. The more people who test positive the more the rate of death goes down. I don't understand why people think more cases are the end of the world. Look to the facts. Look to the decreasing death rates and stop believing what you hear on CNN.
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I agree...and also what isn’t being considered are the “survivors” of corona.
 
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DVCakaCarlF

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
There’s is absolutely no evidence of this...none.

If you don’t get your “news” from cable pundit shows...you might have noticed that the largest studies on antibodies, natural resistance are being conducted in Europe and the indications thus far show that there are low antibody rates...suggesting reinfection is a strong possibility to those already exposed.

So there cannot be herd immunity by definition unless there is research to indicate that is incorrect. So far there isn’t.

The truth shall set you free.

The best course - in lieu of vaccines which are far from guaranteed - is contract tracing/isolation to contain flashes of infection.

Sometimes you don’t win the ballgame and have to settle for the participation trophy.
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Holy rant..triggered.
 

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