Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

[Heppenheimer]

the new spin has arrived.

Call it the "magical spinning, moving goalposts".

 

[Miss Bella]

Sure I agree with most all of that, other than I doubt we will ever get to zero deaths, wish we could,but not realistic compared to every other corona virus.

All I was sharing is that it is good news that hospitalizations and emergency rooms were flattening and declining and that data point is good news

I have never said the situation is great it Arizona or anywhere, no matter how much others try to say that. I have repeatedly said that.

When I post a good news data point, some posters immediately go nuts and start accusing me of spin and even outright lying. Or having some agenda, (what type they never said). It amazes me how posting the hospitalizations leveling off in one state is not good news. Of course things are bad, we are in a pandemic, hospitals are stressed in certain areas of the country, that is very bad news, never have I once denied that. This thread and others constantly and rabidly share the bad news, out of context single data points in most cases, but also overall trends etc. and that is fine and should be done, but any slight good news, immediately get jumped on as spin and even been called as a liar. Some have even said I plagiarized my opinion, however that would happen.

Good news does not fit their narrative. You should know that by now. As far as Arizona it’s not getting worse and we’ve been stable with our capacity over the last week. Actually it’s improved a little. They closed bars and required masks but other than that nothings really changed as far as pulling back.

 

[legwand77]

None of the places you’re going are very populated.

I was in Monument Valley when the Navajo Nation shut down in March, talk about physical distancing and wanted to stay but being non native was not an option. Ended up hunkering down in Sedona for a while, can't complain.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

No fast pass plus, no crowds, no lines. It may be the best trip ever.

Disney is more to me then saying” I got to go on space mountain 5 times in a row with no wait”. This isn’t really directed at you, I hope you have a wonderful time. But to me with so much missing, no thank you. From some of the reports The positives are getting to ride things more and that’s about it. Great for kids and adults who just want to ride everything. I like getting wrapped in the experience.. things Disney does so well, making it feel like I’m somewhere special and not the local Six Flags. Now add in the masks, social distancing and everything else, which I agree should be going on, doesn’t sound that magical. Buts that’s me and in no way does everyone feel like that.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Yes — Arizona is indeed flattening, at a very high level. Premature to say Texas or Florida are flattening. Georgia and other places are rising.

So not sure if your point?
Arizona went through some massive increases. Then put in more restrictions, and curve flattened. Still not nearly enough.

So the logic is Florida needs more restrictions?

I’ll answer that for you since they didn’t. Yes, Florida needs more restrictions.

 

[Miss Bella]

Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

I'm sure you'll be posting every picture you can find if that happens. You can count on it. 👍

forums.wdwmagic.com

I’m not sure why you took a screen shot of my post to another member that happens to be going the same week. What was the purpose of that.

 

[legwand77]

Good news does not fit their narrative. You should know that by now. As far as Arizona it’s not getting worse and we’ve been stable with our capacity over the last week. Actually it’s improved a little. They closed bars and required masks but other than that nothings really changed as far as pulling back.

Yeah I know that by now, and have for months, but figure it would be good to post any good news if possible on a Disney board. Alas. Hoping that continues in Arizona, the serology results of over the past week in Arizona look promising

 

[Parker in NYC]

I’m not sure why you took a screen shot of my post to another member that happens to be going the same week. What was the purpose of that.

Because it reminded me of a post I made in this same thread a few weeks ago.

 

[schuelma]

Exactly, pretty much what I said. and all my point was/is we might be seeing the beginning of the flattening of the curve, as Arizona has started to see. That is all, nothing more nothing less.

No denying Arizona is high and went through increases, very obvious, and hospitals stressed. said that in my post "especially Arizona (hospitals were even more stressed there)"

my post from earlier

We might be seeing the “flattening of the curve“ in effect, from when Florida opened, especially in South Florida. Hospitals in some areas are stressed without a doubt but are still being able to handle it and not be overwehlmed. Other states that are about a week ahead or so like Texas and especially Arizona (hospitals were even more stressed there) are already seeing the flattening and some decline. Hope that is the case for Florida and there is not any strong indicators why it wouldn’t. Covid like illnesses admissions are already dropping statewide in Florida.

Arizona positivity rate was 30 percent today!!!

That's a raging, out of control community spread.

This is the hill you want to (temporatily) die on?

 

[JoeCamel]

Arizona positivity rate was 30 percent today!!!

That's a raging, out of control community spread.

This is the hill you want to (temporatily) die on?

That poster is dedicated. Been going on for 20 pages now.

 

[Sparksfly]

Theres talk building of a possible new strand that is not showing as a positive in the current COVID tests. If this is true...all of these metrics are inaccurate until we incorporate this new strand into our COVID tests.

 

[legwand77]

Arizona positivity rate was 30 percent today!!!

That's a raging, out of control community spread.

This is the hill you want to (temporatily) die on?

Honestly don't know what you are getting at.

All I said was it is some good news that hospitalizations in Arizona have begun to flatten if not decreased. How is that a problem? To answer your question, yes sure I will die on the hill that the Arizona DOH stats report that in the past week or so Covid hospitalizations have been flat and somewhat slightly decreasing. Still not sure that why that is something to die on a hill for, as it is fact.

 

[schuelma]

Honestly don't know what you are getting at.

All I said was it is some good news that hospitalizations in Arizona have begun to flatten if not decreased. How is that a problem? To answer your question, yes sure I will die on the hill that the Arizona DOH stats report that in the past week or so Covid hospitalizations have been flat and somewhat slightly decreasing. Still not sure that why that is something to die on a hill for, as it is fact.

A 30% positivity simple does not equal any sort of "flattening", which is what you hypothesized.

Period.

End of story.

 

[Captain Neo]

No fast pass plus, no crowds, no lines. It may be the best trip ever.

no crowds true but also a far inferior experience. Pretty big tradeoff unless you literally just go to WDW to move around in a ride vehicle through an air conditioned warehouse for 3-5 minutes.

 

[legwand77]

A 30% positivity simple does not equal any sort of "flattening", which is what you hypothesized.

Period.

End of story.

Again

That is not the story that I am saying or have ever said. Never once have I said positivity or even hypothesized that is equal to flattening. You are the only one that brought positivity up.

 

[Miss Bella]

no crowds true but also a far inferior experience. Pretty big tradeoff unless you literally just go to WDW to move around in a ride vehicle through an air conditioned warehouse for 3-5 minutes.

Are you really comparing Disney rides to a ride vehicle in a warehouse?

 

[schuelma]

Again

That is not the story that I am saying or have ever said. Never once have I said positivity or even hypothesized that is equal to flattening. You are the only one that brought positivity up.

"Exactly, pretty much what I said. and all my point was/is we might be seeing the beginning of the flattening of the curve, as Arizona has started to see. That is all, nothing more nothing less. "

You are using one data point to argue that Arizona might be flattening.

Its not

 

[Chef Mickey]

A 30% positivity simple does not equal any sort of "flattening", which is what you hypothesized.

Period.

End of story.

Depends on the total numbers we are talking about. Percentages mean almost nothing without raw data and analysis.

Way too much misrepresentation of numbers, starting with comparing numbers from other countries who don’t test as much, test differently, don’t test, or flat out lie and/or don’t report real numbers.

 

[Chef Mickey]

no crowds true but also a far inferior experience. Pretty big tradeoff unless you literally just go to WDW to move around in a ride vehicle through an air conditioned warehouse for 3-5 minutes.

Rise of the Resistance is a hell of a lot more than just moving around in a ride vehicle.

I’m not sure you can at argue the experience is that inferior with the many positives considered. It’s freaking unbelievable. I’m here right now and it’s the best trip ever.

I miss some shows and a few restaurants, but this is incredible and will likely never happen again in decades.

 

[schuelma]

Depends on the total numbers we are talking about. Percentages mean almost nothing without raw data and analysis.

Way too much misrepresentation of numbers, starting with comparing numbers from other countries who don’t test as much, test differently, don’t test, or flat out lie and/or don’t report real numbers.

What does this even mean? Obviously nothing is 100% perfect, but positivity rate is absolutely amongst the top stats to look at where states/countries are at.