Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

legwand77

Well-Known Member
Why does the graph you attached look like it was done in crayon?

The graphs below are from that PDF....not sure why I was intrigued enough to look. I though certainly no one could have made a graph that bad as the one you posted...

As you can see they are scenario based. Where are the scenarios in the one you posted?
pick one they are all a bit high to say the least

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kong1802

Well-Known Member
pick one they are all a bit high to say the least

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So, please correct if wrong, but scenario 8 shows 988 -1494 deaths by end of May........

And you are saying they are at 1500+ as of today. A far far far cry from your post below stating 27000 deaths predicted and the accompanying weird graph, wouldn't you say?

Also, the stay at home until 6/1 number seems to be a similar range, if not the exact same. So your borrowed analysis is way way way off.

I don't blame you as you were just basically retweeting without giving credit....

But I would strongly suggest digging in a bit before just retweeting.

Or at least give credit so you don't take all the heat.....

I do find it interesting to see how far off the million dollar models paid for cited by governments are off a bit. According to the official MN state model revised in mid May, MN expected deaths to total to be 29,000 with full lockdown stay at home in place until 6/1, and 49000 if no lockdown. MN cumulative total today is 1573

 

legwand77

Well-Known Member
So, please correct if wrong, but scenario 8 shows 988 -1494 deaths by end of May........

And you are saying they are at 1500+ as of today. A far far far cry from your post below stating 27000 deaths predicted and the accompanying weird graph, wouldn't you say?

Also, the stay at home until 6/1 number seems to be a similar range, if not the exact same. So your borrowed analysis is way way way off.

I don't blame you as you were just basically retweeting without giving credit....

But I would strongly suggest digging in a bit before just retweeting.

Or at least give credit so you don't take all the heat.....

??

Snark not needed, and you might look again, with stay at home till 6/1 the number of deaths predicted is 28231 for the year. Also note the stay at home order was lifted 5/13. They are at 1500 today, with the last month daily deaths averaging in the single digits.

scenario 5-6

every scenario has greater that 22,000 deaths for the year, up to unmitigated has 57000.

Now if you think at a minimum 20,000+ will die in MN in less than six months then you would be correct.
 

kong1802

Well-Known Member
??

Snark not needed, and you might look again, with stay at home till 6/1 the number of deaths predicted is 28231 for the year. Also note the stay at home order was lifted 5/13. They are at 1500 today, with the last month daily deaths averaging in the single digits.

scenario 5-6

every scenario has greater that 22,000 deaths for the year, up to unmitigated has 57000

So you are comparing YTD deaths with what they are predicting for the entire year?

Their YTD numbers fall in line with where they are today.

Your borrowed analysis misses the mark and is misrepresenting the data.

Plus there are scenarios that have a range of 14k for a 1 year mark.

Taking a snapshot of 4 months ytd and comparing it to a 1 year total without looking at all the scenarios is not the correct interpretation of what they have presented.
 

legwand77

Well-Known Member
So you are comparing YTD deaths with what they are predicting for the entire year?

Their YTD numbers fall in line with where they are today.

Your borrowed analysis misses the mark and is misrepresenting the data.
missed my edit

Now if you think at a minimum 20,000+ will die in MN in less than six months then you would be correct.
 

legwand77

Well-Known Member
You missed mine as well......

ETA: was also pointing out that you were sharing a tweet without giving the credit to the tweet. No snark intended...
Since you are having fun nitpicking, you are wrong again, the graph had the twitter handle on it, smh

So do you think that MN will see 20,000-30,000 deaths YTD?
 

Communicora

Premium Member
missed my edit

Now if you think at a minimum 20,000+ will die in MN in less than six months then you would be correct.
They are referring to 12 months not a calendar year. Day 0 in the model appears to be March 22.

I obviously hope the model is wildly incorrect. It sadly hasn't been so far in terms of deaths.

Does Florida have a model? It would be more relevant to this thread.
 

kong1802

Well-Known Member
They are referring to 12 months not a calendar year. Day 0 in the model appears to be March 22.

I obviously hope the model is wildly incorrect. It sadly hasn't been so far in terms of deaths.

Does Florida have a model? It would be more relevant to this thread.

Plus the range starts at 14k. So would need 12.5 k more not 20-30k...

And hopefully it is wrong.
 

legwand77

Well-Known Member
The graph did...

But it seems like you were presenting the analysis of it as your own....

Hopefully I’m mistaken
So to summarize my original post and my comment still stands.

Yet now you are accusing me of something plagiarism? maybe copyright infringement? not exactly clear, and since your "point" ended up not really going anywhere?

as far as YTD thing now being brought up, sure ok add 3 months, for that matter at 2-3 years, Do you think 10,000 people will die of Covid in the next 2-3 years.

Next up , you can gotcha me on spelling or grammer errors adn you will proablay be right their ;)

Moving on
 

kong1802

Well-Known Member
So to summarize my original post and my comment still stands.

Yet now you are accusing me of something plagiarism? maybe copyright infringement? not exactly clear, and since your "point" ended up not really going anywhere?

as far as YTD thing now being brought up, sure ok add 3 months, for that matter at 2-3 years, Do you think 10,000 people will die of Covid in the next 2-3 years.

Next up , you can gotcha me on spelling or grammer errors adn you will proablay be right their ;)

Moving on

Your analysis was just plain wrong, no worries.
 

DisneyCane

Well-Known Member
Having visited AK and Springs today there is no reason to close from a safety perspective. Outside of your home, a nursing home or a hospital there is nowhere that spread will be less likely.

I didn't see a single person at either place not obey the mask requirement. Distancing was followed in all queues. People stayed spaced on the pathways (although I will say that was made easy with the very light crowd). People were using hand sanitizer all the time.

If there is any significant spread with all of the procedures and modifications in place at WDW then there isn't a single business that can operate safely.

Now, from a financial perspective this crowd level can't be sustainable. I'm pretty sure during one ride of dinosaur there were more CMs than guests in the building.

Also, a shout out to all the CMs. They were over the top friendly and were having fun interacting with the guests. Especially the photopass photographers.
 

Miss Bella

Well-Known Member
Having visited AK and Springs today there is no reason to close from a safety perspective. Outside of your home, a nursing home or a hospital there is nowhere that spread will be less likely.

I didn't see a single person at either place not obey the mask requirement. Distancing was followed in all queues. People stayed spaced on the pathways (although I will say that was made easy with the very light crowd). People were using hand sanitizer all the time.

If there is any significant spread with all of the procedures and modifications in place at WDW then there isn't a single business that can operate safely.

Now, from a financial perspective this crowd level can't be sustainable. I'm pretty sure during one ride of dinosaur there were more CMs than guests in the building.

Also, a shout out to all the CMs. They were over the top friendly and were having fun interacting with the guests. Especially the photopass photographers.
How long were the wait times? Have you visited other parks? If so I'd love to read your updates. I'll be there in three weeks. The crowd level is probably perfect for reopening. Disney needs to show it's safe then people will book for the Fall and into 2021.
 

DisneyCane

Well-Known Member
How long were the wait times? Have you visited other parks? If so I'd love to read your updates. I'll be there in three weeks.
So far just AK. The only wait we had was waiting for sanitizing procedures on Kali. EE was down the whole time we were there.

Navi said 25 minutes at one time but we didn't ride it. Kali and dinosaur we were able to re-ride without getting off. FoP was pretty much just the time to walk through the queue. At the exit they were letting you shortcut back through the FP line to ride again.
 

Miss Bella

Well-Known Member
I just read in our paper that 4 people died and 29 people hospitalized for drinking hand sanitizer with methanol. I guess 33 people were hospitalized last year for drinking hand sanitizer. I honestly never knew this was a thing. Who knows someday will have to sign a waiver to buy hand sanitizer in this state like we do to buy glue.
 

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