lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Yes, but by that time it’ll be a different metric that is proof that all is well.
-
The new WDWMAGIC iOS app is here!
Stay up to date with the latest Disney news, photos, and discussions right from your iPhone. The app is free to download and gives you quick access to news articles, forums, photo galleries, park hours, weather and Lightning Lane pricing. Learn More -
Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.
Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?
- Thread starter Logan L
- Start date
oceanbreeze77
Well-Known Member
spinspinspin
There are hundreds of people dying weekly... if not more...
The "plan" isn't going very well, unless the plan is just to let tens of thousands of people die.
We can already see that Florida's plans have been total failures to date.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
In my head I just hear the Doctor Who theme. Do do dooo...
Break the cycle people, he’s been told what the plan is when the hospitals get full, he accuses said person of being sensational and that said situation will never happen, then goes immediately back to “they have a plan.”
Plans are fantastic as long as their abstract, details are too grim and stating them makes you a Debbie Downer. Everything is fine! Eat your Soylent Green...
Plans are fantastic as long as their abstract, details are too grim and stating them makes you a Debbie Downer. Everything is fine! Eat your Soylent Green...
Last edited:
again cute memes aside, show me where I am spin anything, or being irrational? or as some have accused lied.
Never said that situation will never happen, anything could happen, and have always said they have a plan, which is true they have a plan.
Around 7500 people die daily, over 50,000 weekly in this country of something besides Covid. I would love to eliminate death, call me irrational but that isn't likely going to happen. The number of deaths in Florida are not great as any death is not good
To early to say imho. There have been a few worse.
fngoofy
Well-Known Member
Not sure of your point. You are right, 7,708 died every day in 2017. The leading causes in order were Heart Disease, Cancer, and Accidents.
Some more preventable than others.
The Covid deaths are/were preventable.
Had we had better leadership, we could be on a better footing right now, but for now if you distance, wear a mask, don't do unnecessary things like going to theme parks, we'd get to a better place in this country.
G00fyDad
Well-Known Member
You're just being pedantic now. You know that there is a difference in the deaths related to COVID19 and someone dying in a car accident or some other non-COVID related incident. Yes. We know people die all the time. But the general idea in the Florida (and apparently national) government is "So what? If you die then you die."
fngoofy
Well-Known Member
Are you saying Florida's handling of this has been good? Because it has been among the worst.
The goal is to avoid preventable deaths.
About 200,000 people are expected to die in Florida each year.
With proper management, only a few hundred people in Florida would die in total from Covid.. maybe a few thousand.
So instead of good planning that might limit total additional deaths to under 3,000... you're ok with some horrible planning that results in between 9,000 and 33,000 deaths by the end of the year. (Per IHME projections).
The idea, "well... 200,000 people are going to die anyway.. so who cares if it's 233,000 instead.." -- That's not planning I support.
schuelma
Well-Known Member
And heeere we go
A week ago "deaths aren't spiking, Florida, Disney World is fine"
Now: "ok deaths are spiking...BUT PEOPLE DIE EVERY DAY"
I think you've officially ran out of goalposts to move
Lots of different places have made lots of different mistakes at different times.
New York, for example, made some horrible mistakes early, because they were canary in the coal mine. They were the first to experience major community spread... and they weren't even aware that the virus was in the USA until there were already thousands of cases in New York.
But from the time frame of mid-April to today, it's hard to name any place that really did a worse job than Florida. (Though some were just as bad).
For example, since mid April, New York daily cases have dropped about 90% -- a 90% drop WHILE a massive increase in testing
Florida, since mid April -- approximately a 1000% increase in daily cases.
If the loud ignorant guy in the video kept going off and his behavior got worse, his employment could have fired him. There was an insurance agent confronted by store staff in a store he was shopping in in FL recently to remind him to wear his mask. He went ballistic and his actions were captured in video. His employer promptly fired him. Hilarious way to get fired.
All I said was it is to early to say and there are a few worse
Would love to prevent other diseases, would love to prevent those too, not an either or.
Just 8 days ago, he cited that deaths were decreasing nationwide:
Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?
Serious question... suppose a successful vaccine is not found and antibody levels in those who have had COVID-19 are low enough that they don't prevent re-infection. So there would never, in that scenario, be herd immunity. What then? Do we permanently adjust our way of life to protect against...
Or just 2 weeks ago, DisneyCane arguing that Florida wasn't showing a "perceptible" increase in deaths:
Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?
Why? If the procedures they are putting in place were determined to be safe with 1,000 new cases per day in the state then why don't they work with 9,000 new cases? It was pretty much guaranteed that there would be some people who had the virus at WDW. Why does it matter that there might be...
So we went from, "deaths are decreasing" and "deaths aren't increasing much" -- As a reason against additional preventative measures. Now, death is explicitly increasing lots, so it becomes, "well.... people die anyway. So who cares about a few thousand more"