Disney's Live Action The Little Mermaid

[TP2000]

We will see what happens, but the last couple of years the ratings improved

They did, but only because they were still rebounding from the Covid-Closure of nearly the entire movie industry in 2021, when the Oscars did that weird virtual socially distanced ceremony thing with almost no pizazz or entertainment. Only 10 Million Americans tuned in to the Oscars in the depressing Covid year of '21, less than 3% of Americans.

Things rebounded from that non-year in '22 and '23, but the trend line over the past 10 years is still firmly in place. Downward.

 

[Willmark]

The Academy Awards is still always my most hyped tv event of the year for me.. wonder which group I belong in….perhaps film nerd… I do like movies of any genre if it’s good, but I still feel there are those who are more knowledgeable about movies than me

I still feel Oscar nominations still can make a difference…it’s not the Oscar’s that are dying it is cable TV… the Academy awards are still the 2nd most watched Television event of the year and even if people do not watch live… they watch the clips later on YouTube… I remember reading articles about how Everything Everywhere became a water cooler show and became one of the most rented movies despite moving the rental price from 5.99 to 19.99…I remember seeing To Leslie one of the most rented films when Andrea Riseborough was a surprise nomination

2nd most watched?

 

[Tha Realest]

The Academy Awards is still always my most hyped tv event of the year for me.. wonder which group I belong in….perhaps film nerd… I do like movies of any genre if it’s good, but I still feel there are those who are more knowledgeable about movies than me

I still feel Oscar nominations still can make a difference…it’s not the Oscar’s that are dying it is cable TV… the Academy awards are still the 2nd most watched Television event of the year and even if people do not watch live… they watch the clips later on YouTube… I remember reading articles about how Everything Everywhere became a water cooler show and became one of the most rented movies despite moving the rental price from 5.99 to 19.99…I remember seeing To Leslie one of the most rented films when Andrea Riseborough was a surprise nomination

2nd most watched? Try 77th.

 

[GimpYancIent]

The cure for Live Action Little Mermaid-ides BARBI.!

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Little Mermaid's box office reminds me of Oz the Great and Powerful. That did well in the US with about $235 million total, but fell just short of $500 million worldwide and was ultimately considered a disappointment because of its massive budget.

Now Little Mermaid will soon cross $300 million in the US, but fail to hit $600 million worldwide.

The major difference being Mermaid's merch sales helping to elevate its overall profitability.

 

[Phroobar]

So I might just win my bet with @mickEblu that Barbie makes more domestically than the Little Mermaid.

Opening weekend Barbie brought in $155m while the Little Mermaid brought in $95m in it's opening weekend.
Barbie needs to beat $296m and it is half way there already.

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[mickEblu]

So I might just win my bet with @mickEblu that Barbie makes more domestically than the Little Mermaid.

Opening weekend Barbie brought in $155m while the Little Mermaid brought in $95m in it's opening weekend.
Barbie needs to beat $296m and it is half way there already.

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Lol I don’t recall that bet. Are you sure you have the right guy?

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Are you suggesting that the new Little Mermaid film (not the original animated film) is generating significant merchandise revenue?

From where specifically are you getting that data?

I'm saying Little Mermaid is selling more merch than Oz the Great and Powerful.

 

[TP2000]

Here's where the box office stands for Little Mermaid after this weekend, and it's still deeply in the red.

With a staggeringly high production budget of $250 Million, plus a reported $140 Million global marketing budget, using the 60/40 split for domestic/overseas box office take, The Little Mermaid is currently operating at a loss of $110 Million thus far.

That overseas box office was just brutal for this film. Americans seemed to generally enjoy Mermaid, but foreigners were not impressed at all. Thus, it had no real path to profitability at the global box office.

 

[wtyy21]

Now Little Mermaid will soon cross $300 million in the US, but fail to hit $600 million worldwide.

We must not forget that in South Korea (and maybe China), TLM (which deemed flop in these countries) was surpassed by Elemental. Elemental had grossed $37.7M in Korea as opposed to just $5M for The Little Mermaid.


We may not surprise that TLM's overseas box office might be surpassed by Elemental (depending on Japan's release this August).

 

[TP2000]

So I might just win my bet with @mickEblu that Barbie makes more domestically than the Little Mermaid.

Opening weekend Barbie brought in $155m while the Little Mermaid brought in $95m in it's opening weekend.
Barbie needs to beat $296m and it is half way there already.

Fascinating, isn't it?

Lol I don’t recall that bet. Are you sure you have the right guy?

Just take the bet, because it's a really interesting comparison of two female-centered movies in the same summer. I'll pay for your betting losses by Labor Day in churros and Genie+, I promise.

Just look at that overseas haul for Barbie from its debut weekend. I had mentioned in the Box Office thread that I had no idea if Barbie was a thing for little girls in foreign countries, but apparently Mattel has been selling that All-American girl all over the world and foreigners definitely have a point of reference for her and her brand. Fascinating.

But my gosh, that overseas box office for Mermaid in the last two months is just... bizarrely bad.

 

[mickEblu]

Fascinating, isn't it?



Just take the bet, because it's a really interesting comparison of two female-centered movies in the same summer. I'll pay for your betting losses by Labor Day in churros and Genie+, I promise.

Just look at that overseas haul for Barbie from its debut weekend. I had mentioned in the Box Office thread that I had no idea if Barbie was a thing for little girls in foreign countries, but apparently Mattel has been selling that All-American girl all over the world and foreigners definitely have a point of reference for her and her brand. Fascinating.

But my gosh, that overseas box office for Mermaid in the last two months is just... bizarrely bad.

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Hahah. Take the bet that Mermaid will do better than Barbie? I mean maybe if you gave me 100 to 1 odds?

 

[Chi84]

You think people have become desensitized to Barbie’s message and that’s why it’s doing well?

 

[LittleBuford]

I never said I don’t agree with the review. I said I don’t agree with everything. I said I agree with most of it. Stop trying to twist my words.

Am I wrong in understanding you as having enjoyed Super Mario Brothers and Elemental?

 

[mickEblu]

You think people have become desensitized to Barbie’s message and that’s why it’s doing well?

I’m not sure what the message of Barbie is. But I do know it’s had one of the best marketing campaigns I’ve seen in many many years.

 

[mickEblu]

Am I wrong in understanding you as having enjoyed Super Mario Brothers and Elemental?

No

 

[Phroobar]

Now that’s a bet I’ll take. I’ll bet you it was Disney Irish.

It was @Disney Irish . Sorry about that @mickEblu .

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I bet the Barbie movie will out gross the Little Mermaid. I know I'm going to see it.

I'll take that bet. But we have to define "out gross", you talking just domestic or worldwide?

Note its tracking lower than TLM right now in both domestic and worldwide.

 

[LittleBuford]

No

OK. That was my point. You enjoyed both of those movies despite the damming reviews of them on the website you shared, which suggests that you would do well to assess other films for yourself rather than simply trust what the website is telling you.

 

[Chi84]

I’m not sure what the message of Barbie is. But I do know it’s had one of the best marketing campaigns I’ve seen in many many years.

Maybe you should find out before you celebrate it.

 

[Phroobar]

I’m not sure what the message of Barbie is. But I do know it’s had one of the best marketing campaigns I’ve seen in many many years.

Warner Brothers did a bait and switch. They marketed it as a mad cap fish out of water toy adventure suitable for kids and it turned out to be something very different. I wonder when the word gets out how it will affect sales.