erasure fan1
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Yes, it's completely subjective, unless you disagree with them, then you're just plain wrong. Lol
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Disney's Live Action The Little Mermaid
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CinematicFusion
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It should, Disney stock has tanked. Feb 1st 2021 Disney was 189.00. It’s lost 100 points from that point.
Factoring in inflation, Aladdin’s domestic opening weekend was $108.5 million, that’s $13.1 million more than The Little Mermaid’s 3-day opening weekend. In the 4-day weekend, adjustinf for inflation, Aladdin earned $138.6 million. That’s $21.1 million more than The Little Mermaid.
Not looking good for Mermaid. It’s on tract to take a loss. Needs to crack 800 million to be a success.
This movie should have been a lay up. Maybe overseas box office picks up but it’s not looking great.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Don’t read the financials much, huh?
CinematicFusion
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Needs to make over 750 million. At $250 million budget, the film has to make around $625 million dollars. I’m sure advertising budget was 150 million.If you were to take this at a 3x multiplier then it needs to make probably somewhere between $625 and $750 million to break even. In either case I think it’s a problem.
The thing is I am not on either side… I try to look at things objectively…
But people want to tear down a movie without even seeing it… that’s when I can disregard the comment…I don’t criticize any movie of any studio until I see it… I have no interest in seeing the new Transformers movie as I have seen a couple of others and thought they were horrible, but I am not gonna drag the new one down as I have not seen it
I have not noticed anyone here praising everything Disney does, but some choose to wait until they see the film
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LSLS
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What did he say one way or the other if it would have legs? I don't think you need to see the movie to make a prediction that in it's second weekend it's going to have issues beating Spiderman's opening weekend.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
To be clear: I’m not lumping you in that group.
Others find themselves in a similar pattern all the time.
I often do…I would love to praise Disney more…but I’m a pain and require that they actually produce good product/make good decisions to get the praise
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LSLS
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This right here is completely my issue, and why I have no desire at all to see it. I'm not a huge fan of the LMM music anyways (outside of Moana). It's absolutely fair to say I haven't seen it therefore I don't know how close to an exact remake it is. But I think others need to also accept the trailers and the descriptions are why people like me think it's just another remake from the same point of view. And I don't think I'm on my own island with that thought process at this point.
erasure fan1
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You aren't alone. It's Disneys job to convince you to go see the movie through their marketing. The trailers did little to help this film. I personally have a limited budget and can't just go to every new film. So the trailer is an important part of the decision making process. If someone was not interested in seeing mermaid to start with, NOTHING in disneys marketing campaign helped sway their opinion. If anything, the supporters should be mad at Disney, not the people who haven't seen it. From the terrible CG to the dark and dreary cinematography, they didn't put their best foot forward. And that's shame on them, not the people who didn't go see it.
Can we be looking at a Mermaid, Elementals, Indy, Marvels flopaganza?
If so what does that mean on the business side?
Is there accountability for any of this ?
Disstevefan1
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To be fair, I don't think there was EVER accountability for making money losing movies.
It just happened less frequently and was less of a problem.
No one knows.
The transition to D+ for other movies this past year has been all over the place.
If the movie has 'legs' it could be a few months. If the B.O. dies, it will be pulled sooner.
Disney has gone back, tho, to opening up a DVD/BluRay window for sales before going to D+.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
None of those titles are “arrow up” at this point.
…and chapek gets a 10% reduction in his severance checks
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
…that’s where the money is. I have my 4 head vcr ready
This is especially true for Walt Disney Studios (live action). WDS has had a history of lots of flops with a few blockbusters that makes the studio only just break even in the long run.
WDS eventually makes a profit with the post-theatrical windows.
And since Disney+ was born, it was the comapany's top priority. This means that Disney, the corporation, didn't care much about Box Office performance, but getting theatrically released films onto D+ to get and keep subs. And D+ is still a top priority now financially (as opposed to just sub numbers).
As an aside: Folks need to keep in mind that Walt Disney Studios and Disney Animation Studios are two different studios. Just like Pixar and Marvel are two different studios.
It's is WDS that is making all these "live action" remakes, even if it's all CGI (like The Lion King). WDS is doing animation. And DAS is still producing new animated features at its own pace (along with Pixar).
And WDS has a history of farming out projects to various directors and producers and outside studios. This makes their output vary widely. From mostly poor to a few great ones.
LittleBuford
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If the posts here are anything to go by, those declaring the film a failure are doing just fine and certainly not being silenced. My only issue is that we’re not actually discussing the film, which is a great shame.
LittleBuford
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Nope.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Who’s said “failure”?
Every movie thread turns into. Black and white/semantics battle.
LittleBuford
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Perhaps it should, but why we’re discussing Disney’s earnings rather than the film itself is beyond me given the ostensible topic of the thread.