Disney(World) vs. Disney(land)?

[FrankLapidus]

You are welcome to stay just make sure you agree with everything the OP says. And he will say it over and over and over again. So if that is your cup of tea you are in the right place.

I don't always agree with his opinion on certain matters but, personally, I've seen enough to be convinced that the information he posts is valid, informative and comes from genuine and reliable sources. I agree with some of the things you've said lately and I've disagreed with some of it but that is the fun of being a part of an online community such as this.

 

[steamboat wil]

Do the insiders on the board know if this is most likely just another clone coming from California, or actual original stuff coming to the studios. Doesn't WDW have enough clones from the west coast?

 

[FrankLapidus]

Anyway, the more I think about it, the more I don't want Carsland or even just RSR coming over to WDW... Let DCA has its big toy.. Give WDW a new and different big toy... One to call its own...

I agree. If they want to give DHS a big, new toy, make it something themed on The Incredibles .

 

[TalkingHead]

Same culprits trying to detract from the topic at hand.. who would have thunk it...

Anyway, the more I think about it, the more I don't want Carsland or even just RSR coming over to WDW... Let DCA has its big toy.. Give WDW a new and different big toy... One to call its own...

If RSR is cloned for DHS, but the rest of Carsland isn't, I wonder how that would affect the ride experience. I know with Potter, the ride is great on its own but the experience of the entire land makes the ride that much better.

I'd be concerned that TDO would say the rest of the land is expendable, that all they want is the popular E-ticket without any interest in how the E-ticket fits into the larger landscape. It's one of the reasons why I was never crazy about IJA being added to DHS.

(Speaking of IJA, maybe if RSR can't happen, TDO could press for Indy...they could at least catch up to DL on that E-ticket -- and Dinosaur doesn't count.)

 

[wdwmagic]

Were you on RADP back in the day too, Steve?

Certainly was! Usenet and mailing lists where the good old days.

 

[jt04]

Same culprits trying to detract from the topic at hand.. who would have thunk it...

Anyway, the more I think about it, the more I don't want Carsland or even just RSR coming over to WDW... Let DCA has its big toy.. Give WDW a new and different big toy... One to call its own...

There is no way WDW is getting RSR. I would be stunned. Now please stop dragging me back to a thread I have no idea is about.

 

[Captain Chaos]

If RCR is cloned for DHS, but the rest of Carsland isn't, I wonder how that would affect the ride experience. I know with Potter, the ride is great on its own but the experience of the entire land makes the ride that much better.

I'd be concerned that TDO would say the rest of the land is expendable, that all they want is the popular E-ticket without any interest in how the E-ticket fits into the larger landscape. It's one of the reasons why I was never crazy about IJA being added to DHS.

(Speaking of IJA, maybe if RCR can't happen, TDO could press for Indy...they could at least catch up to DL on that E-ticket -- and Dinosaur doesn't count.)

That is also one of the concerns I had when thinking about this... When you ride RSR, you are brought into the world of Cars... If you only bring the ride to DHS without the surrounding land, something gets lost... it would be Test Track through a rock structure... nothing exciting at all..

I really wish they would increase the Star Wars presence in the park... But I think we are just wasting our time wishing for that to happen...

 

[danlb_2000]

If RCR is cloned for DHS, but the rest of Carsland isn't, I wonder how that would affect the ride experience. I know with Potter, the ride is great on its own but the experience of the entire land makes the ride that much better.

I'd be concerned that TDO would say the rest of the land is expendable, that all they want is the popular E-ticket without any interest in how the E-ticket fits into the larger landscape. It's one of the reasons why I was never crazy about IJA being added to DHS.

(Speaking of IJA, maybe if RCR can't happen, TDO could press for Indy...they could at least catch up to DL on that E-ticket -- and Dinosaur doesn't count.)

I am not interested in seeing RSR come to DHS, but I do think it could stand alone and be an effective ride. The ride really has it's own self contained environment separate from the town so you could build the ride with it's surrounding rock work and not the town. Not to mention, part of the town is represented inside the ride.

 

[Captain Chaos]

I agree. If they want to give DHS a big, new toy, make it something themed on The Incredibles .

Yes, Incredibles is one franchise I wouldn't mind a big new e-ticket toy being developed... I'd still prefer more Star Wars like I said in my post above...

 

[TalkingHead]

I am not interested in seeing RSR come to DHS, but I do think it could stand alone and be an effective ride. The ride really has it's own self contained environment separate from the town so you could build the ride with it's surrounding rock work and not the town. Not to mention, part of the town is represented inside the ride.

I guess I also don't understand how RSR would help give DHS some coherent identity.

The place is already a hodge-podge of rides based on popular entertainment -- TV, animated films, live action films, music, Muppets.

If the park's identity is actually important (maybe it's not), then RSR just continues what is already there. Pixar Place just becomes the hodge-podge area for Pixar rides. Is that an improvement?

 

[FrankLapidus]

Yes, Incredibles is one franchise I wouldn't mind a big new e-ticket toy being developed... I'd still prefer more Star Wars like I said in my post above...

Yeah I'd like to see more Star Wars too. Sadly, if the rumoured rift between George Lucas and Disney is as bad as reported then it probably won't ever happen. There is still a lot of potential for a whole Lucas-land in that area of the park if Disney and the man himself could thrash out some sort of truce and put their heads together on some plans.

 

[Orangelake555]

I guess I also don't understand how RCR would help give DHS some coherent identity.

The place is already a hodge-podge of rides based on popular entertainment -- TV, animated films, live action films, music, Muppets.

If the park's identity is actually important (maybe it's not), then RCR just continues what is already there. Pixar Place just becomes the hodge-podge area for Pixar rides. Is that an improvement?

What does RCR stand for, to you? just wondering its driving me nuts. same way as when people call FLE, NFE

 

[danlb_2000]

What does RCR stand for, to you? just wondering its driving me nuts. same way as when people call FLE, NFE

I believe the poster meant to say RSR, Radiator Springs Racers.

 

[TalkingHead]

What does RCR stand for, to you? just wondering its driving me nuts. same way as when people call FLE, NFE

Typo. Should've been RSR, Radiator Springs Racers.

 

[HenryMystic]

Since we've started to get more on topic. I and others mentioned that we don't think Cars Land would be enough or do what TDO wants with this DHS overhaul. Somewhere amongst the JT thread derail (because of his massive..er...crush on Spirit) Spirit mentioned that this indeed would not be enough, which sort of gives me hope that he has heard things that point to something or else or some larger scheme to improve DHS. It may get a slashed budget, but it will be more than just DCA's sloppy seconds. I hope.

However, he also mentioned that there may not be a Plan B if/when Lassetire drops the hammer on TDO's Cars Land dream. Which causes concern in my mind.

 

[NoChesterHester]

Since we've started to get more on topic. I and others mentioned that we don't think Cars Land would be enough or do what TDO wants with this DHS overhaul. Somewhere amongst the JT thread derail (because of his massive..er...crush on Spirit) Spirit mentioned that this indeed would not be enough, which sort of gives me hope that he has heard things that point to something or else or some larger scheme to improve DHS. It may get a slashed budget, but it will be more than just DCA's sloppy seconds. I hope.

However, he also mentioned that there may not be a Plan B if/when Lassetire drops the hammer on TDO's Cars Land dream. Which causes concern in my mind.

Sounds early. No Plan B yet.

Can't let the non-creatives dictate creativity.

 

[ScoutN]

Since we've started to get more on topic. I and others mentioned that we don't think Cars Land would be enough or do what TDO wants with this DHS overhaul. Somewhere amongst the JT thread derail (because of his massive..er...crush on Spirit) Spirit mentioned that this indeed would not be enough, which sort of gives me hope that he has heard things that point to something or else or some larger scheme to improve DHS. It may get a slashed budget, but it will be more than just DCA's sloppy seconds. I hope.

However, he also mentioned that there may not be a Plan B if/when Lassetire drops the hammer on TDO's Cars Land dream. Which causes concern in my mind.

I will be the first to say that as much as I would like to ride RSR without going to that state out west that most other states want omitted from the Union (stir pot ) I do not want it coming here. I stand by what Spirit has said for a while now, creativity, unique, and split offerings between the coasts. Homogenization of offerings within the company would be good for neither. The no Plan B is a bit jarring. If this Door Coaster was fairly close to being greenlit then I still do not understand why that is/would not be an option now.

 

[GLaDOS]

I will be the first to say that as much as I would like to ride RSR without going to that state out west that most other states want omitted from the Union (stir pot ) I do not want it coming here. I stand by what Spirit has said for a while now, creativity, unique, and split offerings between the coasts. Homogenization of offerings within the company would be good for neither. The no Plan B is a bit jarring. If this Door Coaster was fairly close to being greenlit then I still do not understand why that is/would not be an option now.

The door coaster is also not something on the same plane as RSRs. So I hope that isn't the plan B haha

 

[ScoutN]

The door coaster is also not something on the same plane as RSRs. So I hope that isn't the plan B haha

Good to know. I do not know much of that project and the details encompassed within. I gave up on that thread when a certain person kept babbling on at sad attempts to prove reputable people wrong.

Either way, a large attraction with a PP expansion could use that as a decent supportive attraction, correct?

 

[Skyway]

If you only bring the ride to DHS without the surrounding land, something gets lost... it would be Test Track through a rock structure... nothing exciting at all..

If Disney can seamlessly plop a European castle at the end of a turn-of-the-century Main Street or a Haunted Mansion feet from a log flume (DL), I'm not too worried how RSR would fit in without the rest of Carsland.

From what I recall seeing in videos, there is very little of Carsland seen from RSR.

Also, DHS already has Pixar Place as a "land". It would be odd to then create a separate land based on a single Pixar property.

The other 2 attractions in Carland (Mater Junkyard Jamboree and Luigi's Flying Tires) sound like duds, or at least nothing that needs to be rushed into DHS.

If RSR is coming (and I, too, think it should be a DCA exclusive) I'd rather see it mixed in with a wide variety of other Pixar attractions to flesh out that "land".

I'm just surprised there is even talk of bringing RSR to Florida. At best, I assumed TDO would steal only the dark ride portion of RSR to make a discount Cars attraction (just as the Seas with Nemo is a discount version of DL's Submarine Voyage)