preludevtec01
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Maybe all that extra cash will be going to fixing the Yeti!?!?!?!
1000000000000% Sarcasm!
1000000000000% Sarcasm!
Any more rumblings on Staggs/Mayer and what they might be doing in the forseeable?? MarieWhat they did there is admit they’re losing customers but trying to spin it that means more money in the future…so Bob doesn’t lose the key to his shower and vertical climber
…and someone people can’t see the nonsense in that?
7 magical days in the sun at port orleans or pop once every few years guarantees lifelong advocacyDo you ever get tired of defending mediocrity?
This has to be exhausting for you.
Do you ever tire of wishing Disney would burn to the ground?
I continue to think the attendance numbers for all parks is going to be one of the more fascinating things to come out (when is that, July?). We have pretty good knowledge that the Orlando parks were down. I'd guess Universal Hollywood sees a large bump. I'm pretty sure we will see DL go up, and we know the regional CA parks got hammered this year. If you see a bump in some top regional parks in the Midwest, I'd think that would be a large indication of the value question many have been discussing recently (basically the base that mainly goes to Orlando are choosing the less expensive parks instead). If all parks are down, then you have an entirely different set of questions.See this is where I say it (again as always) that hey have basically hit their price ceiling
How do you know? Because Disney has never had a reduction in attendance without a recession or an act of god. It’s never happened. We’ve broken a seal
But if the only way people will accept that is to have someone in a nametags do a presser on it…then you’re a fool.
Variable pricing makes this opaque. If there were thirty days at $109 in 2022, and only ten in 2023, that’s a price hike.Your question was whether prices were raised this year. They weren't. They weren't raised last year either.
And so, instead of being relieved. All of a sudden the goal post of "they raise prices every year!" has been moved to "they raise prices every other year!"
BTW, when you go two years without a price raise, that's not every other year, otherwise, one of those years would have had a price raise. It's how math works.
Funny you mention that…Any more rumblings on Staggs/Mayer and what they might be doing in the forseeable?? Marie
They’ve already admitted - to those paying attention - that they’ve declined 3 quartersI continue to think the attendance numbers for all parks is going to be one of the more fascinating things to come out (when is that, July?). We have pretty good knowledge that the Orlando parks were down. I'd guess Universal Hollywood sees a large bump. I'm pretty sure we will see DL go up, and we know the regional CA parks got hammered this year. If you see a bump in some top regional parks in the Midwest, I'd think that would be a large indication of the value question many have been discussing recently (basically the base that mainly goes to Orlando are choosing the less expensive parks instead). If all parks are down, then you have an entirely different set of questions.
construction and a few lane stalling wrecksSo what happened on I-4?
Not as exhausting as all the complaining must be.Do you ever get tired of defending mediocrity?
This has to be exhausting for you.
In an ideal world it would work that way but in reality they all live by the "costs go up, prices go up" credo nowadays. Hence why I was pointing out the other operators doing the same thing.The question is not “did they raise the price?”
It’s “did they maintain or increase the value of the offerings to justify the price level?”
Disney parks were constructed in an ideal world…one where their reputation and delivery ensured they would not only survive…but prosper over time and the wide range of economics environments…In an ideal world it would work that way but in reality they all live by the "costs go up, prices go up" credo nowadays. Hence why I was pointing out the other operators doing the same thing.
From a value stand point, is IoA for $179 a better value than a single day at MK for $189? How about DHS at $184 vs. USF at $179? MK vs. USF? etc.
I would say it depends on the day and the person.
Point being, I don't think Disney is that far out there compared to everyone else with the caveat that ALL of them are so far gone with pricing that it is absurd.
Do you ever tire of wishing Disney would burn to the ground?
Point being, I don't think Disney is that far out there compared to everyone else with the caveat that ALL of them are so far gone with pricing that it is absurd.
YetAnd also…universal is getting price blowback too…
That was the next point
You mean basic common sense?That was the next point
Both had attendance problems…universal used the price strategies they know to work
I feel like we could say that about a lot of companies but the reality is that as soon as a company goes public it is forever on the profit treadmill and unfortunately, as the years pass, investors get less and less patient with returns. It's not a sustainable model but it's the one we have.Disney parks were constructed in an ideal world…one where their reputation and delivery ensured they would not only survive…but prosper over time and the wide range of economics environments…
I respectfully submit that a small group of guys is wrecking that
And also…universal is getting price blowback too…
Running promotions is always an option but I don't think those are a valid defense of over priced tickets.
But also admitted to DL being up, which is what's really interesting.They’ve already admitted - to those paying attention - that they’ve declined 3 quarters
We also know that universal didn’t post gains for 2023 either
We also know that Travel across the board was WAY the hell up in 2023…
So what happened on I-4?
Why? It’s the better park (ducks)But also admitted to DL being up, which is what's really interesting.
Food/bev is usually November-ish, but I’m keeping my eyes on them. Parking has not increased as of today, still $30/car for standard parking.Don't be surprised to see an increase in food/bev and parking, too. That usually happens at the same time.
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