News Disney removing plastic straws and more by mid-2019

King Panda 77

Thank you sir. You were an inspiration.
The big cost savings DIS gets out of this move.
So bio straws cost more than plastic straws and you want a price reduction
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Kman101

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The no lid thing will not go over well with WDW crowds. IMHO.

It's cute they use "saving the environment" but it's probably more about cost savings on these products. They are "free" and cost Disney (small, but still) money. But they "look good" by axing them. It's sort of brilliant on their part.

Think they'd be so quick to cut something to save the enviroment that makes them money?
 

jaklgreen

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The no lid thing will not go over well with WDW crowds. IMHO.

It's cute they use "saving the environment" but it's probably more about cost savings on these products. They are "free" and cost Disney (small, but still) money. But they "look good" by axing them. It's sort of brilliant on their part.

Think they'd be so quick to cut something to save the enviroment that makes them money?

I agree that it will not go over well. But as someone who works in a restaurant, I can tell you that the paper goods are a big chunk of change. The actual soda is the cheap part, paper goods are expensive. That is why when you want a "free" to go cup for your water, you get the smallest, cheapest one possible. Eliminating lids and reducing straws will save Disney. And they will definitely make more money selling bottled drinks now.
 

Nubs70

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It someone could weigh 10 WDW straws/lid combination and determine an average weight. Then weigh 10 of the new lid/straw redesign and get an average weight. Only if the redesign weighs less than the former straw/lid, is there any possible environmental improvement.

On the redesign, will it simply be a plastic bo-ob?
 

21stamps

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The no lid thing will not go over well with WDW crowds. IMHO.

It's cute they use "saving the environment" but it's probably more about cost savings on these products. They are "free" and cost Disney (small, but still) money. But they "look good" by axing them. It's sort of brilliant on their part.

Think they'd be so quick to cut something to save the enviroment that makes them money?

How many amusement parks, zoos, festivals, concerts, sporting events, etc etc etc.. Actually give you a cup with a lid?

Most fast food cups need a lid for regidity. Cups designed for use without one tend to be firmer and less squishable

Maybe people need to go out sometimes to places other than fast food restaurants 🤷‍♀️ ;)
Plenty of people can survive a day without a lid, and without spilling the contents inside of the cup.
 

DisneyGigi

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I remember very clearly, the first time, my at the time, 4 year old insisted on a real cup without a lid at a restaurant. I protested, 5 seconds later cup spilled. I honestly think, when Disney is replacing spilled drinks, with kids, because they do not offer lids- this idea will pass. 😑 Their little hands are just too small, especially if straws are banned too.
 

LittleBuford

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I remember very clearly, the first time, my at the time, 4 year old insisted on a real cup without a lid at a restaurant. I protested, 5 seconds later cup spilled. I honestly think, when Disney is replacing spilled drinks, with kids, because they do not offer lids- this idea will pass. 😑 Their little hands are just too small, especially if straws are banned too.

I’m not a parent, so this is a genuine question, but is it usual to give children lidded cups at home? I’m surprised to learn how essential people consider lids to be.
 

DisneyGigi

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I’m not a parent, so this is a genuine question, but is it usual to give children lidded cups at home? I’m surprised to learn how essential people consider lids to be.


For a toddler yes! Sippy cups are a parent- grandparent’s best friend. I am not carrying a sippy cup to Disney, or anywhere else. Sell a drink without a lid to a toddler, replace it in two seconds, when it is spilled.
 

jaklgreen

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I’m not a parent, so this is a genuine question, but is it usual to give children lidded cups at home? I’m surprised to learn how essential people consider lids to be.

Well at home when they are little you start by giving them small cups with very little liquid in them. Trying to give a small child a completely full cup, as you get with your food will not end well. Personally if we were in this situation, I would ask for one of their small cups they use for water and pour some of the drink in that to give to my kid. It is always 10 times more work for a parent when they have little ones with them, and frankly some parents either don't think of things like that or do not want to bother with the "hassle". Before they invented sippy cups, Moms had to hold onto the bottom of their kids chin and sloooowly pour a little bit of drink in their mouth until they got the hang of drinking from a cup instead of a bottle.
 

jaklgreen

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I'm impressed that a toddler can order their own drink ;)

This is funny, but when I was really little and we would spend time at my grandparent's house, they would take us to Burger King and one of us kids would do the ordering. My grandma loved whoppers but her English was not that great yet. We were very young when we did this, I would say even before we started school. My grandma would tell us what she wanted and we ordered for everyone.
 

DisneyGigi

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Well at home when they are little you start by giving them small cups with very little liquid in them. Trying to give a small child a completely full cup, as you get with your food will not end well. Personally if we were in this situation, I would ask for one of their small cups they use for water and pour some of the drink in that to give to my kid. It is always 10 times more work for a parent when they have little ones with them, and frankly some parents either don't think of things like that or do not want to bother with the "hassle". Before they invented sippy cups, Moms had to hold onto the bottom of their kids chin and sloooowly pour a little bit of drink in their mouth until they got the hang of drinking from a cup instead of a bottle.
My son stopped drinking from a bottle at 5 months old. He also, never was pushed in a stroller at Disney World, at barely 3. He walked, the entire way. 🤔 Kids are kids, they spill stuff. Anybody who shoves a bottle in a toddler’s mouth... will have huge dental bills at the very least. ;)
Edit to add, my son is almost 24. Has perfect teeth and does not require a sippy cup. ;) Still does not require a stroller either. Or a lid for his cup. His son, is 2 and he does need a lid. If he spills his drink, I will clean it up, but expect a refill when he does. Common sense. A grown up should not need a lid, a toddler does.
 
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francism

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The issue with the cups that Disney uses is that the lids are the thing that stabilizes them. You put liquid into the cup near the top and it's almost a guarantee it's going to spill because the cup is so flimsy and can be easily pushed inward. When you're trying to bring food on a tray to a table, along with drinks that Disney is filling near to the top with no cover, it's also much easier to spill. Take a place like Columbia Harbor House where much of the seating is on the second level which requires climbing up stairs. Lids used to keep those drinks from sloshing around.

If anything, Disney needs to have new cups for the fountain drinks if they are going to continue the no lid policy. If you are at a table service restaurant, you're getting something that's either glass or hard plastic for your drink. They need to at least have something that's a little more rigid for quick service.
 

Gitson Shiggles

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If you are at a table service restaurant, you're getting something that's either glass or hard plastic for your drink. They need to at least have something that's a little more rigid for quick service.

Providing sturdier cups cuts into the economic incentive for Disney to eliminate plastic lids and straws.
 
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jaklgreen

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My son stopped drinking from a bottle at 5 months old. He also, never was pushed in a stroller at Disney World, at barely 3. He walked, the entire way. 🤔 Kids are kids, they spill stuff. Anybody who shoves a bottle in a toddler’s mouth... will have huge dental bills at the very least. ;)
Edit to add, my son is almost 24. Has perfect teeth and does not require a sippy cup. ;) Still does not require a stroller either. Or a lid for his cup. His son, is 2 and he does need a lid. If he spills his drink, I will clean it up, but expect a refill when he does. Common sense. A grown up should not need a lid, a toddler does.

This is some good old fashioned parenting. Careful, this is considered abusive today to force your kid to drink from a normal cup and not push him around in a stroller until he is 10. LOL
 

DisneyGigi

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This is some good old fashioned parenting. Careful, this is considered abusive today to force your kid to drink from a normal cup and not be push him around in a stroller until he is 10. LOL
Ya, he threw the Bottle away, and refused to get in a stroller. He is still as amazing, as he was then. Independent as could be but still clumsy with a cup as a kid. ;)
 

jaklgreen

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Ya, he threw the Bottle away, and refused to get in a stroller. He is still as amazing, as he was then. Independent as could be but still clumsy with a cup as a kid. ;)

My cousin was like that, if there was a cup anywhere in his vicinity, he would knock it down. My poor aunt wanted to strangle him most days. :banghead::D
 

21stamps

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For a toddler yes! Sippy cups are a parent- grandparent’s best friend. I am not carrying a sippy cup to Disney, or anywhere else. Sell a drink without a lid to a toddler, replace it in two seconds, when it is spilled.

What are you ordering for a toddler though? Wouldn’t it be milk or water? Both have lids, right?
I’m not a parent, so this is a genuine question, but is it usual to give children lidded cups at home? I’m surprised to learn how essential people consider lids to be.

I’ve never seen toddlers drinking fountain soda.. but who knows. Apparently It sounds common for 2 years olds here. Most kid drinks are bottled water, or a single serve milk.
 
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