That's an opinion I do not agree with. Yes I heard the same thought, without Wells , Eisner wasn't the same. Well, the shareholders banded together with Roy and Stanley and forced Iger to resign which he did.
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Brer Panther
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If we still had Roy, Iger probably would've been forced out by now too.
el_super
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That's definitely not how parks work.
Why? Iger did everything Roy wanted him to do. What would Roy even suggest they do differently?
Jrb1979
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Really? Maybe that's now Disney does it. Universal and most other parks don't do it that way.
Sirwalterraleigh
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So 0-2
Park stagnation has been the biggest hindrance of amusement parks since they started
And I’ve never seen a worse take on Iger that saying Roy would be pleased
He’s been twice as bad at the things Roy went kamikaze on Eisner for
You’re right on schedule today
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Brer Panther
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Do you really think Roy would've approved of the "live action" Lion King remake? One of the things that Eisner got the axe for is that he wanted to do a remake of Pinocchio in CGI just to prove it was the superior medium.
Dranth
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In some cases sure, but I would say most have a good idea, they just don't care about the same things you or I do.
At the end? Wells died 11 years before Eisner was forced out and the decline was swift.
Regional parks maybe, but even then there is a lot of replacement vs. new builds, theme parks, not as much though it is always welcome (when done well). That isn't to say Disney doesn't need to add capacity, they obviously do, but they've added about the same as Uni over the last 10-15 years last I looked so neither have been going nuts.
lazyboy97o
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Universal started that period with less demand and less of a capacity deficit.
Nubs70
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Cedar Point adds/replaces a ride just about every year. Keeps it fresh
UNCgolf
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Cedar Point isn't comparable to Disney (or Universal), though. It's much easier to replace the kind of attractions they have than themed attractions.
Jrb1979
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I know regional parks are different but they still add new attractions on a regular basis. Universal has been adding new things on a regular basis since COVID.
The problem is WDW needed new capacity yesterday. There is no reason that 3 of the 4 parks have under 20 attractions each. Each WDW should have at least 30-40 attractions in each park.
Nubs70
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Agree, but a theme park should add attractions on a longer, routine cycle.
Dranth
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Have they? I know they are building a new theme park and that gives them a TON of leeway from all of us but they have only opened two rides I can remember since COVID and one is a replacement.
They do have the updated kids zone coming sometime this year at USF but last I looked that will only add back the rethemed kiddie coaster ride wise. That gives them three rides in 4 years but we've had more from Disney over the same time period with three openings and two of them being new capacity. TBA will add a 4th later this year.
The big difference is obviously the forward-facing projects with EU being a giant one.
Going forward, if you are Universal, you desperately need to swing back to USF once EU is done. From the Disney side, they need to continue to restaff Imagineering from the great Chapek exodus and put out some solid plans at D23 this year. Those plans need to include shovels hitting the dirt soon after.
Agreed and while I have my doubts, my hope is they are finally seeing the light.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Hmmmmm…not so sure
Universal has done replacements…for sure…but the actual added capacity at wdw has been pretty low. Some of the replacements resulted in reduced hourly capacity…even if the stuff was outdated
el_super
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If they raised the prices to $200-$300/day to pay for those new attractions... they wouldn't need the capacity anymore.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Woah, Newt…never gonna fit 40…
But under 20 is unacceptable
A 30+ min queue for everything is a revenue loss
Jrb1979
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I don't get what issue with short waits for everything is so bad. Other than it affecting Genie+.
Sirwalterraleigh
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They just don’t have the space/wont pay the ops cost for that many
Short waits are great…because people are in a better mood/spend more (that a fact)
But Disney parks aren’t for “ride pounders”…that’s not what they do and there’s less money in THAT…for sure
DisneyDodo
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They could certainly fit that many. MK is the smallest WDW park in area, yet it has by far the most attractions. DL is even smaller and has even more.
Space is not the issue.
Dranth
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I could be missing something but Velocicoaster is the only added capacity post covid I can think of while Disney has Rat and Tron. All three additions are pre-covid carry overs.
Come to think of it, do either of them have any projects that started post COVID? I guess USF has the Kid zone redo and Disney would have the changes to the EPCOT plan? Is there anything else?