News Disney Not Renewing Great Movie Ride Sponsorship Deal with TCM ; Attraction to Close

LuvtheGoof

LuvtheGoof

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JohnD said:
Um, you don't have a "land" without an IP in which the land is featured. We can argue about the course Disney is taking with these IPs. But that's the reason for Avatar Land. The point of the movies is that the land has staying power, or so they hope.
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The point of the movie has nothing to do with the theme park land that Disney is building. Yes, the movie planet influenced the AK land, but the plot of the movie and any sequels matters not one whit to the AK land.
 
LuvtheGoof

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NothingRhymeswithOrange said:
Like I said, the land will be immersive and should be a fine addition. The fact that there hasn't been anything in 10 years to put Avatar back into everyone's minds in troublesome. If the rides are amazing and the land is well themed (which it should be since Animal Kingdom has phenomenal theming) then there is no issue. This isn't Harry Potter we are talking about, this is Avatar. Which had one successful movie 10 years ago, which most people have probably forgotten already. Like you said, lets move on...
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Avatar the movie, again, doesn't matter one whit to whether or not the AK land is successful. It will be successful regardless because of the area and the attractions.

The next time you go to MK, ask random people what movie Splash Mountain is based on. I'm willing to bet that you might be lucky to find 1 person in a hundred that knows it is Song of the South. One. The same percentage will be found concerning the entire Pandora land at AK, so the movie and any sequels matter not at all.
 
Cesar R M

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Mawg said:
Trackless is also very 2 dimensional. Having elevation changes with it seems difficult as you would have to add another mechanism to change elevation. If you didn't and there was a failure you would coast down whatever hill you are on and crash.
I would like to see a combination or a trackless system and track. A track to move you up and down and tilt you side to side but them be able to dump you onto a floor where the trackless takes over and spins you around with other carts making it seem that the show is more random.
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Unless they find a way to make the trackless ride "seek" the mechanism to cling to a chain ( a la rollercoaster) to change elevation.
 
5thGenTexan

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MerlinTheGoat said:
By the way, I don't know if this has been mentioned or not, but this idea is quite similar to the 90's videogame Mickey Mania. Each level takes place in a Mickey cartoon, starting with the oldest and reaching up through the newer ones from the 90's. Steamboat Willie, The Mad Doctor, Moose Hunters, The Lonesome Ghost, Mickey and the Beanstalk and The Prince and the Pauper.


I'd be extremely shocked if we don't see Steamboat Willie in the ride. The game's level even used a neat effect in the second level to "magically" transition the graphics from black and white into color, which would be very cool to see done in a ride (probably could be with some sort of digital mapping effect. Would love to see Lonesome Ghost and Mickey and the Beanstalk adapted into the ride as well. Would also be quite surprised if Sorcerer's Apprentice isn't included (and it should be, i'm dying to see a proper physical showscene of Mickey on the cliff calling forth the seas and heavens). There's almost limitless potential here with the vast library of classic Mickey cartoons.

And yes, that is me sounding slightly excited for a change, wanting desperately to be optimistic. In spite of everything that is already questionable about this project, and all that could end up going wrong in the end... Can't I be hopeful for once without being sorely disappointed by the end product?
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Disney knows how to make a whole dining room (Animator's Palate) magically transform from B/W to color before your eyes. Shouldn't be too hard to pull it off on a ride.
 
Cesar R M

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rael ramone said:
I'm wondering if another element could be rearing it's head:

Deliberate. Capacity. Reduction.

Specifically, looking to get rid of all the 'long rides'.

The 22 minutes you spend on a ride is 22 minutes you aren't spending buying plush.

Perhaps the future of SSE is:

1. get the cars moving as fast as the infrastructure will allow
2. replace everything with screens (showing whatever new IP grows the ego of the Dastardly Duo).
3. have the ride exit into a gift shop.
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isnt it a bit ironic? I mean.
I remember the report recently, where they demonstrated that by guest spending went down. Technically went up (thanks to price hikes) but nothing else.
I guess they dont get the hint.
 
brb1006

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CinematicFusion said:
It's going to be a huge hit if we are transported into those scenes. Many of Mickey's stories are well written, kinetic, fun.
A few years ago Disney created the get a horse short and it was a big success.


If they can capture the magic of that short with the Philharmagic film at MK and combine it into a whimsical greatest hits journey....well....it could possible be one of the best rides in all of DW.
Hope springs eternal. :)
Of course....it might not get built at all. :(
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If this does get confirmed, I really hope Disney gets same team behind Philharmagic and Get A Horse for some ideas for the attraction with some ride ideas based on the special effects for Mystic Manor and the ride design similar to Hunny Hunt.
 
Cletus

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blueboxdoctor said:
That's my problem, Avatar is already out of fashion. Star Wars and Toy Story do have staying power. Though, I question Marvel mainly because there are so many super hero movies (though, I am a little biased, I much prefer the latest DC movies to a lot of the Disney Marvel ones, I know, an unpopular opinion).
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I hope you haven't read the reviews for Suicide Squad on Rotten Tomatoes! :jawdrop:
 
brb1006

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JohnD said:
Thematically, it's the same as the WDW attraction but I like this one a whole lot better. It's better conceived with a much better ride system. One correction, there is a screen at the beginning with Pooh talking to Christopher Robin.
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I'm aware of that, but I'll let that slide since it serves as a prologue.
 
brb1006

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Coaster Lover said:
I'd suspect that a moderately large/large area of the remaining space may be devoted to a new Mickey Meet-N-Greet area... you know, ride the ride all about Mickey, then stand in line to get your picture taken with him... it could be neat to include a small walk through talking about the development/evolution of Mickey over the years. I could imagine something like the Disney Animation Building at California Adventure (not in exterior appearance or interior content) but where you enter into a general "lobby" (possibly just like the Disney Animation Building at California Adventure where they have multiple screens around you, but in this case all showing various Mickey cartoons and stills) and off of this lobby would be entrances to the main ride, the meet-n-greet, and possibly the previously described (by me) Mickey "museum". Could be cool if the meet-n-greet allowed you to meet various different "Mickey's" like classic, Sorcerer, and Steamboat... though that may violate their policy of not having Micky appear multiple places in the same park at the same time. There is certainly the possibility of a really nicely done ride/exhibit/meet-n-greet if the option is on the table...
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Maybe the Steamboat Willie Mickey might finally be given beady eyes from his classic design.
Steamboat-willie.jpg
 
CinematicFusion

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They re-theme a few rides, and make Mickey Mouse the centerpiece of the park. They could call the park Walt Disney Studios or something along those lines.
Simple and effective. Everything in the park from Pixar to Lucasfilm will be under that umbrella.
Would be easy to market.

1. Mickeys magical mystery tour
2. Muppets 3D
3. RnR coaster (possible re-theme)
4. ToT (possible re-theme)
Star Wars land
5. Star Wars adventure ride
6. Star Wars falcon ride
7. Star tours (is this closing?)
Toy story land
8. Toy story mania
9. Slinky Dog Dash coaster
10. Alien swirling saucers

Shows like fantastic, fireworks, frozen ect.
Themed shops, restaurants to the surrounding land.

Mickey's just might be the headliner.
This could be the start of a great park
 
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Tony the Tigger

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JohnD said:
I think SW, TS, and Marvel have staying power. That having been said, can you imagine in the 1970s pointy headed execs saying, "We need a Witch Mountain land or better yet Love Bug land." It would be out of fashion within several years.
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...which is why these things need to be solid attractions, not just a roller coaster with an IP slapped onto it. A solid attraction can have staying power regardless of the popularity of the movie or number of sequels (It's Tough To Be A Bug, Splash Mountain) and/or they can keep trying to make movies to do the attraction justice (Haunted Mansion - waiting patiently for the Guillermo Del Toro version!)

If they had made a Witch Mountain ride that was a great ride, it would be more likely to be considered "classic" than "dated."
 

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