News Disney Not Renewing Great Movie Ride Sponsorship Deal with TCM ; Attraction to Close

[csmat99]

I'm wondering if another element could be rearing it's head:

Deliberate. Capacity. Reduction.

Specifically, looking to get rid of all the 'long rides'.

The 22 minutes you spend on a ride is 22 minutes you aren't spending buying plush.

Perhaps the future of SSE is:

1. Each car will have Ipad ordering system and you can use your magic band with.
2. replace everything with screens (showing products you can buy).
3. have the ride exit into a gift shop and you collect you gifts you just bought on ride along with picture of buying gifts.

I corrected you post.

 

[DinoInstitute]

I wouldn't worry about SW Launch Bay. It's pretty much meant to have a SW presence now before the land is built. When SW land opens, something else will likely be done with that space.

Fingers crossed for the return of Magic of Disnh Animation! Always loved that as a unique type of attraction, and would actually fit the area.

 

[Thanks phoenicians]

I'm getting vibes of the second one, though that may just be me being hopeful. Surely Disney isn't that ignorant to see how they need more capacity in that park, right?!

Same but then again this is the same company that built FEA so capacity may or may not be in their dictionary.

 

[blueboxdoctor]

Is that a shock to you though? Disney hasn't been creative in the US in years. 0 original idea attractions, just shoehorning whats popular at that time.

I mean, some of them took on the classics, like in New Fantasyland, and I think they did a really good job respecting the source material there.

But that's why Avatar is in DAK-it's not there to celebrate it as a good movie, but rather it's message and the amazing natural landscape.

The three IP lands they have now, SW, TSL, and Muppets if you want to count their little area I think all have staying power, I don't see any of that being a problem.

Fair enough, though the Muppets I would debate are kind of out of the public eye. I know they try to make them relevant, but they're really not too popular. I think I'm good with the new lands, just hope they keep some of the original vision of the park.

 

[JohnD]

Fingers crossed for the return of Magic of Disnh Animation! Always loved that as a unique type of attraction, and would actually fit the area.

Or a new ride as is being hoped in this thread.

 

[RSoxNo1]

That's interesting, I always thought the building for GMO was small.

Keep in mind that Hunny Hunt also has an exterior queue that GMR doesn't really have. Even still, I don't think it's unreasonable to put in a 6-9 minute trackless ride in here without much difficulty.

 

[DinoInstitute]

Or a new ride as is being hoped in this thread.

Figuring this wouldn't close until SWL opens though, and that's around the same time they'd want the new ride open, I would think it would be better off in a different building there with an extension of some sort.

 

[blueboxdoctor]

Is that a shock to you though? Disney hasn't been creative in the US in years. 0 original idea attractions, just shoehorning whats popular at that time.

I mean, some of them took on the classics, like in New Fantasyland, and I think they did a really good job respecting the source material there.

Well, Avatar opens next year and Cameron has three more movies, so we'll see. You're right. Your DC opinion is unpopular.

I can't resist some over-the-top melodrama, plus I prefer their main characters to Marvel. I keep forgetting they have so many Avatar movies planned (was not at all a fan of the original, nearly stopped watching at a few points, it was just cringe worth at parts and generally bad in others).

 

[NothingRhymeswithOrange]

Keep in mind that Hunny Hunt also has an exterior queue that GMR doesn't really have. Even still, I don't think it's unreasonable to put in a 6-9 minute trackless ride in here without much difficulty.

I'm sure this will still take Disney 3+ years to complete though

 

[TiggerDad]

My guess is either the Mickey theme isn't locked down hence the 2nd chapter in the book being about another ip or (crosses fingers) a NEW ride not replacing an existing ride.

Could the second chapter be another Mickey Mouse themed ride elsewhere? I know a possible clone has already been discussed for DLR but maybe more Mickey elsewhere in WDW?

 

[JohnD]

Could the second chapter be another Mickey Mouse themed ride elsewhere? I know a possible clone has already been discussed for DLR but maybe more Mickey elsewhere in WDW?

Bring back Mickey Mouse Revue to the Mickey's Philarmagic space. Besides, MP is really about Donald anyway.

 

[DinoInstitute]

Bring back Mickey Mouse Revue to the Mickey's Philarmagic space. Besides, MP is really about Donald anyway.

Or perhaps bring an updated MP to Animation Courtyard in place of Disney Jr?

 

[NothingRhymeswithOrange]

I mean, some of them took on the classics, like in New Fantasyland, and I think they did a really good job respecting the source material there.

I can't resist some over-the-top melodrama, plus I prefer their main characters to Marvel. I keep forgetting they have so many Avatar movies planned (was not at all a fan of the original, nearly stopped watching at a few points, it was just cringe worth at parts and generally bad in others).

Avatar was a fine purchase and the land should be immersive. But, the fact that the movie came out almost 10 years ago and the planned sequels aren't anywhere near completion or even filming at this time is troublesome. My only knock on this is, do people even care about Avatar anymore? I enjoyed the first one, as did many people since it broke many box office records at the time, but who knows if anyone even cares anymore. Other then it being something new, how much success will this land have long term?

 

[RSoxNo1]

I got wind of this about a week ago—my info was clearly later than Lee's or Martin's—and I've had conflicting thoughts. Five years ago, the GMR was an embarrassing relic of the late 80s, hidden behind a giant plastic toy. The ride's pacing, broken FX, awkward script, and even more awkward CMs overshadowed the impressive sets and AAs. Then TCM stepped in as the all-too-obvious sponsor and financed a complete overhaul. Last time I rode it, everything worked. The AAs were smooth; the FX were functioning; the new prerecorded voiceover mostly covered for the bad CM acting. I could see the potential for future updates, and the ride didn't seem so moldy anymore. Most importantly, the ride introduced guests to some of the best movies ever made.

The Mickey attraction will be incredible. @marni1971 can correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I'm told, the cuts haven't been substantial; this thing will almost be Blue Sky. It will be a worthy E-ticket, although a bit too short.

As a kid, the GMR was pure magic. As an adult, I don't consider it an irreplaceable classic. The attraction was really good, but not on the level of POTC, HM, or Horizons. I just hope that Disney maintains the Golden Age of Hollywood in this park's transformation.

The spiel for TGMR is pretty poor, adding in the Osborne narrative doesn't really help. More importantly, they failed to address the horrible audio issues in the attraction. Yes, it's nice that they refreshed some scenes and improved the finale but I really dislike Osborne being in the attraction at all.

Not that it matters now, but if there were to go the update route they could swap out Tarzan, Footlight Parade, Alien and the Cowboy/Bank Robber scenes/interaction. I also would have liked to see a substantial update to the Fantasia sequence with a Mystic Manor type feel and I think that's far more likely in The Mickey Movie Ride.

 

[JohnD]

Or perhaps bring an updated MP to Animation Courtyard in place of Disney Jr?

Could care less about Disney Jr. I almost made a breakfast ADR at H&V thinking it would be a Halloween themed meal with Minnie and friends. Realized it would have been Disney Jr. characters.

 

[LuvtheGoof]

Avatar was a fine purchase and the land should be immersive. But, the fact that the movie came out almost 10 years ago and the planned sequels aren't anywhere near completion or even filming at this time is troublesome. My only knock on this is, do people even care about Avatar anymore? I enjoyed the first one, as did many people since it broke many box office records at the time, but who knows if anyone even cares anymore. Other then it being something new, how much success will this land have long term?

So let's not go there here, but I ask - what the heck do you think the movie has to do with the land that they are building????? NOTHING - can people get over that fact for once and for all. It is ONLY about the land, not the movie at all. It doesn't matter what, if any, sequels are ever made. Moving on.

 

[JohnD]

So let's not go there here, but I ask - what the heck do you think the movie has to do with the land that they are building????? NOTHING - can people get over that fact for once and for all. It is ONLY about the land, not the movie at all. It doesn't matter what, if any, sequels are ever made. Moving on.

Um, you don't have a "land" without an IP in which the land is featured. We can argue about the course Disney is taking with these IPs. But that's the reason for Avatar Land. The point of the movies is that the land has staying power, or so they hope.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

So, the potential twist to the news is NOT that they are going to save GMR and build this elsewhere. But it's something "connected" to GMR.

Are they rethinking keeping the facade?

The great ride through the ABC Commissary!

 

[NothingRhymeswithOrange]

So let's not go there here, but I ask - what the heck do you think the movie has to do with the land that they are building????? NOTHING - can people get over that fact for once and for all. It is ONLY about the land, not the movie at all. It doesn't matter what, if any, sequels are ever made. Moving on.

Like I said, the land will be immersive and should be a fine addition. The fact that there hasn't been anything in 10 years to put Avatar back into everyone's minds in troublesome. If the rides are amazing and the land is well themed (which it should be since Animal Kingdom has phenomenal theming) then there is no issue. This isn't Harry Potter we are talking about, this is Avatar. Which had one successful movie 10 years ago, which most people have probably forgotten already. Like you said, lets move on...

 

[blueboxdoctor]

Avatar was a fine purchase and the land should be immersive. But, the fact that the movie came out almost 10 years ago and the planned sequels aren't anywhere near completion or even filming at this time is troublesome. My only knock on this is, do people even care about Avatar anymore? I enjoyed the first one, as did many people since it broke many box office records at the time, but who knows if anyone even cares anymore. Other then it being something new, how much success will this land have long term?

That's my concern (though, I didn't like it at all as a movie). I'm sort of surprised they abandoned the original idea of having mythical creatures. I mean, they're timeless. Dragons have been part of mythology for a very long time (just as one example) and still are wildly popular today (Game of Thrones and Skyrim are two recent examples of huge mainstream popularity of dragons in media).

I think what they have to do with Avatar is make it as immersive as possible and don't try to tie it in with the movie. So for all the signs in the area, don't reference the title Avatar, instead have it all reference the planet and civilization. That way it can exist on its own (like a spin off movie in the same universe).