News Disney Not Renewing Great Movie Ride Sponsorship Deal with TCM ; Attraction to Close

[articos]

Oh good. That means the whole industry is on board with language that is vague and undefined with standards that shift from time and place.

Yes, and we have the same arguments over which attractions we like/don't like, what works and doesn't, what violates or supports the spirit of what Walt and the original Imagineers wanted (sometimes with a few of those people participating in the arguments), whether to remove Jaws or BTTF...and on and on. In other words, the people creating the attractions are also human, just like everyone else. The discussions regarding Frozen and SDL have been particularly invigorating.

 

[Mike S]

Oh good. That means the whole industry is on board with language that is vague and undefined with standards that shift from time and place.

People have defined it here plenty of times. Others just continue to ignore it.

Count me among those who would rather have Ratatouille in France -- just a better fit than other choices. I mean, if you have to bring in IP to WS, that's actually a defensible choice. Even better, the R&D costs are already done and it would fill a huge need for the park -- large capacity, family friendly ride on the side of WS far away from other rides to help spread out crowds.

I would just hope it would get approved and get built well before MK's 50th (2021). Seems like it could/should be built quicker if there was actually a will to make it happen. The park could use it ASAP.

The R&D for B&tB is also done. It would be a clone from Tokyo.

 

[lazyboy97o]

The R&D for B&tB is also done. It would be a clone from Tokyo.

The optics of which would be a potential knock against the attraction. The Oriental Land Company has long grown tired of paying the up front costs alone. This plays into the costs associated with the Chinese resorts, mostly Hong Kong Disneyland.

 

[Cesar R M]

It's potentially a ready for the 50th project. Should it happen.

should it happen? as in budget? or what?

 

[Cesar R M]

Ive not heard about Japan for years now.

And nothing for new pavilions right?
I really hope that the Norway pavilion isnt the future for Epcot (aka using the expansion pads to add themed M&G's of IPs loosely related to the countries respective pavilions)

 

[Cesar R M]

The B+B ride will be LPS.

pardon my ignorance, but what the hell is "LPS"?

 

[Rteetz]

pardon my ignorance, but what the hell is "LPS"?

Its a trackless ride system

 

[Cesar R M]

Its a trackless ride system

gotcha thanks!

 

[Sped2424]

This Batb going into Epcot really is hilarious. Because everyday guests ask if the BOG is where the batb ride is. And now Cast might be able to say can say no that's at Epcot

 

[FigmentJedi]

The ride is based on the cartoon.

It's based on the original not the remake.

This post is uncanny valley.

And the way you talk about it hinging on the live action movie's success, I jumped right to thinking they'd pick the garbage aesthetics of that instead of the animated film's in order to cash in and I suppose distinguish the Epcot BATB experience from what's already existing at Magic Kingdom.

Like those reports of the Alice ride planned for Tokyo maintaining animated aesthetic for them and then a Burtonland clone of said ride would come to Shanghai down the road.

 

[articos]

pardon my ignorance, but what the hell is "LPS"?

"Local Positioning System"

 

[Sped2424]

And the way you talk about it hinging on the live action movie's success, I jumped right to thinking they'd pick the garbage aesthetics of that instead of the animated film's in order to cash in and I suppose distinguish the Epcot BATB experience from what's already existing at Magic Kingdom.

Like those reports of the Alice ride planned for Tokyo maintaining animated aesthetic for them and then a Burtonland clone of said ride would come to Shanghai down the road.

Well I mean the ride itself has most likely a bigger budget I would imagine that rat. And of course Imagineering is possibly pushing for something more in line with the WS. But if the live action film does the money it's going to do Execs are going to feel the need to capitalize on that and show they are "listening" by greenlighting this in favor of rat. I don't think the live action version would get the attraction vs the animated one because for TDO that would mean budgeting a new attraction vs cloning the tokyo one.

 

[brb1006]

gotcha thanks!

The best examples from Disney with LPS is Pooh's Hunny Hunt and Mystic Manor.

 

[FigmentJedi]

Well I mean the ride itself has most likely a bigger budget I would imagine that rat. And of course Imagineering is possibly pushing for something more in line with the WS. But if the live action film does the money it's going to do Execs are going to feel the need to capitalize on that and show they are "listening" by greenlighting this in favor of rat. I don't think the live action version would get the attraction vs the animated one because for TDO that would mean budgeting a new attraction vs cloning the tokyo one.

If anything, despite the added unnecessary detail, animatronics of the live-action horrorterrors might be easier to do then the animated originals. The "scaled up" look of the objects in the concept art means they could just throw the "I'm the Oscar that the original didn't' win" version of Lumiere on a random human frame and Mrs. Potts being just a face printed on the side of a teapot means she can be completely projection mapped.

 

[marni1971]

should it happen? as in budget? or what?

Budget approval / theme approval / design approval etc

And nothing for new pavilions right?
I really hope that the Norway pavilion isnt the future for Epcot (aka using the expansion pads to add themed M&G's of IPs loosely related to the countries respective pavilions)

Never say never.

 

[Sped2424]

If anything, despite the added unnecessary detail, animatronics of the live-action horrorterrors might be easier to do then the animated originals. The "scaled up" look of the objects in the concept art means they could just throw the "I'm the Oscar that the original didn't' win" version of Lumiere on a random human frame and Mrs. Potts being just a face printed on the side of a teapot means she can be completely projection mapped.

Again you may hate the designs of the new film but that doesn't translate to them being cheaper to make. Cloning something already being made is cheaper than doing an original live action batb dark ride version of the lps batb ride. Only way it would be cheaper is if they cut the ride in half then you could have an argument either way this thread isn't the vehicle for your disdain of the new film! For that I say go to animation thread lots of discussion good and bad about the new movie.

 

[cjkeating]

As a self-proclaimed EPCOT Center Purist, even I think the Ratatouille idea is a good option. If we are going to be forced to have new attractions be based on IP, they might as well fit the theme of the area, which Ratatouille sure does. And it also helps prevent World Showcase from becoming Princess Mart.

I'm with you... whilst BatB may be a better attraction Ratatouille is more relevant from an IP perspective to go into France.

 

[TWSITT]

I'm with you... whilst BatB may be a better attraction Ratatouille is more relevant from an IP perspective to go into France.

I agree, plus we have BatB in the parks already I want some IPs that we haven't seen as much of at WDW...like the Rat

 

[Princess Leia]

From all of the ideas I've read about IPs going into WS, Rat makes the most sense and it's not an overlay. Granted, I haven't seen Coco, so I'll be open minded about that one, but BH6 in Japan (I think this was just a rumor) and BatB in France don't work for me. Ratatouille does.

 

[danlb_2000]

@marni1971 Do you make YouTube videos?

http://www.martinsvids.net/