nickys
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I think the Treehouse is higher!
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Disney Genie and Genie+ at Walt Disney World
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Purduevian
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Did something you were expecting from Disney yesterday not happen?
lentesta
Premium Member
Ah. I made a bad assumption. My fault. Sorry for the hype.
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
That they would actually open up LL prebooking?
Purduevian
Well-Known Member
No worries! Are you/your team going to have boots on the ground next Wednesday. Any particular tests/questions you plan to test that first day? You are one of the few people on here that might be able to stress test the new system with multiple people on the first day that posts on this forum.
lentesta
Premium Member
Oh, yeah. Touring plan software is being tested now on our staging environment. Forecasting models ready to update. I’ll be in the parks to see how it’s going. And maybe see what I smell like in that heat.
JAB
Well-Known Member
Don't forget to account for the people rope-dropping the Teacups.
Purduevian
Well-Known Member
Don't waste your time on Teacups! COP is open during EE for a reason, you can't even get a LL for it later!Don't forget to account for the people rope-dropping the Teacups.
On a serious note... does anyone thing adding LL to COP would increase the attendance on that attractions? It might not be the worst plan to pull people from other attractions to it.
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JAB
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I would never.
It was joke in reference to a video Touring Plans did about rope drop where Len saw people rope-dropping Teacups as he was on his way to 7DMT, and he said, "You go, Mad Tea Partiers. Live your best life."
GoofGoof
Premium Member
So they averaged roughly 13M units sold a year since the initial launch. According to TEA reports WDW had about 47M visitors to all 4 parks combined in 2022. I think the TEA numbers include some double counting when people park hop, but ignoring that we get a number of 28% of guests using Genie+. I thought it would be larger and thought I read somewhere that Disney said the number was closer to 50%. Interesting numbers either way. This also points out why the new MLL system could potentially be a lot different than FP+ when it comes to capacity. FP+ was free to everyone so a very small number of people didn’t use it. So far the paid genie system has been significantly less utilized.
Disstevefan1
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GhostHost1000
Premium Member
The money is also coming in and they are doing nothing with it.
Good luck, Len. This message board appreciates your service.
lentesta
Premium Member
I'm told that many WDI parks project proposals now include at least some estimate of LL revenue.
LL isn't going away, and forecasting rev gives a more full representation of the finances.
I'm naive enough to think that add'l revenue might get 50/50 projects approved instead of, you know, stock buybacks. That's me - hopeless optimist.
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
I agree. One would hope they use that money from attractions to put back into the attraction or other attractions. They are definitely making bank from LLs
Tha Realest
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sadly for a number of years it went to subsidizing niche D+ streaming projects, many of which have since been written off as losses given their poor viewership.
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
Yeah that’s the problem I have. Park reinvestment. They have no problem raising prices or charging for things that used to be included, but they haven’t used it all to feed back into the parks that we’ve seen anyways.
Also if they are making this much off of attractions (LLs), why does it seem like we see more ride downtime than in the past? Shouldn’t they use that for improved maintenance
