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Disney confirms 'Frozen' makeover coming to Epcot's Norway Pavilion
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lazyboy97o
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If EPCOT Center was made less relevant by technology then so were all theme parks.Yep if you don;t leave Epcot fatter than your were when you went in your missing something
Epcot was a grand concept that was never realized, and that sucks cause I would love to live there!
Then in turned into a education themed park that was slowly made less relevant by society and technology. Now it's a theme park with some educational aspects still surviving but headed away from them slowly for better or for worse. I am fine with adding more Disney characters to the park, I like Disney characters and expect to see them freaking all over the place when I am at WDW.
Why don't you expect Disney characters all over Disney films? The problem isn't technology or the park being boring, it is people who have no respect for themed entertainment as a creative medium.
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Mike S
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On the point of CTX it was always meant to tie in with the movie. It's no mistake an Iguanodon and Carnotaurus are featured prominently in both even though the ride came first. On the rest you're spot on.
misterID
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MyMagic+ is this generations EuroDisney.
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
dstrawn9889
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he is a real dictator, that wily old richard
misterID
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I like the magic bands also. Just for convenience sakes, it really is great. But had they concentrated on that aspect there wouldn't be an uproar, or this many problems with the system. We created a system like this for our golf course years ago, but we knew that starting off in baby steps and slowly updated the system was better than trying to force all our ideas into a new system that was still in its infancy and we were still learning it... albeit, what we did compared to MM+ is like comparing a build it yourself glider to an airbus. But still...
You're not wrong. There's nothing wrong with liking the system
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Animaniac93-98
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Ouch. EuroDisney at least got us a first-rate Magic Kingdom and a decent supporting resort with some nice hotels.
All MyMagic+ gave consumers were Magic Bands and paperless FastPass.
I understand why you made the comparison, but it just underlines how unimpressive MM+ is from the customer perspective.
misterID
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Frozen replacing Maelstrom is like The Little Mermaid replacing Horizons. At least they considered the theme of FW with the replacement, even if they got it way wrong on so many levels. Sorry Eddie... wherever you are.
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I often lament the same thing. The internet in general is not a place for moderates. And wdwmagic is sometimes no different.
misterID
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But if you look at every cool addition to the American parks, including Disney America (which I still believe could have grown into a great park, but would have really struggled early on with their "lack of rides" theme parks, ala Animal Kingdom) every one of them were shelved over the flop EuroDisney was. I can't imagine how far this will set WDW back in the coming years...
asianway
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Sue_Vongello
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I didn't read all 100 pages so I apologize if my comments are redundant ...
But I hate this idea ...
NOT because it's replacing Maelstrom.
NOT because it's Frozen.
NOT because it's World Showcase.
BUT to me the issue is clearly AGAIN Iger and Co. showing how completely inept they are, how out of touch, how little they truly understand ... because arguably the Magic Kingdom and World Showcase are the bottom two park areas on the list of parks that NEED attractions.
Future World has abandoned buildings and rotting attractions and DHS is a ghost town ... this could KILL DHS after this and Avatar at DAK come out ... what will happen to DHS?
Either way ... World Showcase did not need this ...
Additionally, I don't LOVE Frozen but clearly from a marketing perspective the franchise deserves more than a cheap, rushed (by Disney standards) overlay ... it deserves a land, an original attraction ...
Anyway ... way to think this through guys, brilliant.
But I hate this idea ...
NOT because it's replacing Maelstrom.
NOT because it's Frozen.
NOT because it's World Showcase.
BUT to me the issue is clearly AGAIN Iger and Co. showing how completely inept they are, how out of touch, how little they truly understand ... because arguably the Magic Kingdom and World Showcase are the bottom two park areas on the list of parks that NEED attractions.
Future World has abandoned buildings and rotting attractions and DHS is a ghost town ... this could KILL DHS after this and Avatar at DAK come out ... what will happen to DHS?
Either way ... World Showcase did not need this ...
Additionally, I don't LOVE Frozen but clearly from a marketing perspective the franchise deserves more than a cheap, rushed (by Disney standards) overlay ... it deserves a land, an original attraction ...
Anyway ... way to think this through guys, brilliant.
FigmentJedi
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World Showcase does need attractions. Almost half the pavilion plots remains unused and you have all those pavilions that have show buildings that never had their planned attractions put in them. What we don't need is more character tie-ins with those attractions.
I don't like putting Frozen into Epcot, as I've said before. And if you think this is a bad decision for the company, that's a reasonable opinion, I would say, although others may reasonably believe otherwise.
But to say Iger and Co. are inept in general is truly missing the forest for the trees. Iger and Co. made Frozen, Wall-E, the Incredibles, bought Marvel and Pixar, expanded the cruise line, fixed DCA, got back Oswald, made ESPN even more of a juggernaut, and has been CEO as the stock has gone up over 300% during a period when the S&P 500 has gone up around 35%. They didn't do everything right (John Carter, Stitch's Supersonic bust, closing WoL, virtually every decision at ABC), but inept?
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lazyboy97o
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You only listed one thing having to do with theme parks and a lot of the pressure for that came from the City of Anaheim.
True. And yet, my point still remains. Not inept in general.
jamesgf
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When I told my 13 year old daughter about the change she said, and I quote "That sucks, I love the trolls and I'm so sick of Frozen". Her favorite park is epcot btw.
jamesgf
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From the article:
(which will make use of dimensional sets, animatronic figures and film footage to recreate memorable scenes and characters from that Chris Buck/Jennifer Lee film)
Sounds like we can expect an animatronic or two and screens, lots of screens. Enjoy the scenes you have already seen on DVD on Frozen themed flatscreens and projections! Yay.