Disney Board of Directors -- News and Drama

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Iger was musing about the ABC broadcast stations, not the studios that make content.

Fox/2OthC has been fully integrated into TWDC. There's nothing to sell except the individual studios, which make content, which won't be sold off because content is king.
CEOs don’t “muse”

And they got NOTHING beyond the distribution right to avatar from Fox…and minor content for their stream that doesn’t make any money…and $60 bil of debt.


We doing that “ignore the truth” thing again?
 

Vegas Disney Fan

Well-Known Member
I just hope the shareholders make the right choice.
There really isn’t a “right” choice, there’s pros and cons to voting both ways. The important thing is Disney will survive and still be Disney regardless of how the vote goes.

A proxy fight is similar to politics, both sides vilify the other side and make it sound like the other side winning is the end of the world but the reality is not much changes regardless of who wins. In the last 100 years we’ve had several Dem presidents who were going to “destroy America”, and we’ve had several Rep presidents who were going to “destroy America”… and we’ve survived them all.

Don’t let the doom and gloom get to you, take a deep breath and just keep reminding yourself Disney will be fine, it survived Eisner, it survived Chapek, it’ll survive Iger, it’ll survive Peltz, and it’ll survive the next CEO we all complain about too.
 

TsWade2

Well-Known Member
There really isn’t a “right” choice, there’s pros and cons to voting both ways. The important thing is Disney will survive and still be Disney regardless of how the vote goes.

A proxy fight is similar to politics, both sides vilify the other side and make it sound like the other side winning is the end of the world but the reality is not much changes regardless of who wins. In the last 100 years we’ve had several Dem presidents who were going to “destroy America”, and we’ve had several Rep presidents who were going to “destroy America”… and we’ve survived them all.

Don’t let the doom and gloom get to you, take a deep breath and just keep reminding yourself Disney will be fine, it survived Eisner, it survived Chapek, it’ll survive Iger, it’ll survive Peltz, and it’ll survive the next CEO we all complain about too.
Okay. I tried not to be doom and gloom, I’m just worried for Disney. But thank you for reassure me that Disney will be fine.🙂
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
That’s speculation, it’s certainly possible he could sell off parts (ABC, Fox, etc) but Igers already floated that idea so that’s nothing new.

People fear he could break up the company but he’s never indicated that was his intention.
Its valid speculation based on his normal "MO" throughout his history of joining boards of companies. He almost always demands breakup to "return value to the shareholders". He doesn't care one bit about Disney or its fans.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Well that’s a good possibility…don’t know if it’s “definite”?

I’d say he wants to dump what isn’t profitable…so that could be a stripped down version.

We can’t honeslty say that wouldn’t turn out ok. Disney does a lot of things they don’t make money off of these days. Definite dead weight.
But it’s a fine line.

But we shouldn’t whistle past the graveyard here and act like Bob’s doing ok. He’s not. They’ve lost the ability to make more money. A bit of a problem.
There is plenty at Disney that aren't profitable but still value-add to the company. For example WDI has an R&D group, it isn't profitable and a lot of times doesn't lead to direct impacts on the Parks. Does he dump it because it doesn't add to the bottom line? I mean where does it stop? Would he even know the difference, or just dump everything that isn't profitable? His normal "MO" is demand breakup, its not even a guess that is his way. He isn't good for the company as he has no real experience with anything Disney does. Disney needs a scalpel, not a sledgehammer.

I know that you and others just want Iger gone at all costs, but this isn't the way. He and Rasulo aren't the droids you are looking for....
 

TsWade2

Well-Known Member
There is plenty at Disney that aren't profitable but still value-add to the company. For example WDI has an R&D group, it isn't profitable and a lot of times doesn't lead to direct impacts on the Parks. Does he dump it because it doesn't add to the bottom line? I mean where does it stop? Would he even know the difference, or just dump everything that isn't profitable? His normal "MO" is demand breakup, its not even a guess that is his way. He isn't good for the company as he has no real experience with anything Disney does. Disney needs a scalpel, not a sledgehammer.

I know that you and others just want Iger gone at all costs, but this isn't the way. He and Rasulo aren't the droids you are looking for....
Look! I don't know who's side I'm on, but let's just wait and see who the board of directors that the shareholders are voted for.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Look! I don't know who's side I'm on, but let's just wait and see who the board of directors that the shareholders are voted for.
Shareholders are going to vote for whomever they think will bring them the most return on their investment. They don't really care all the much about movies, tv shows, or even the theme parks. Just like Peltz doesn't really care for that stuff either.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
There is plenty at Disney that aren't profitable but still value-add to the company. For example WDI has an R&D group, it isn't profitable and a lot of times doesn't lead to direct impacts on the Parks. Does he dump it because it doesn't add to the bottom line? I mean where does it stop? Would he even know the difference, or just dump everything that isn't profitable? His normal "MO" is demand breakup, its not even a guess that is his way. He isn't good for the company as he has no real experience with anything Disney does. Disney needs a scalpel, not a sledgehammer.

I know that you and others just want Iger gone at all costs, but this isn't the way. He and Rasulo aren't the droids you are looking for....

If your point is it’s “not good”…you won’t get much of an argument here
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Shareholders are going to vote for whomever they think will bring them the most return on their investment. They don't really care all the much about movies, tv shows, or even the theme parks. Just like Peltz doesn't really care for that stuff either.
Which actually makes Peltz look more attractive

If you bought Disney 10 years ago…you’ve made nothing

That’s not a good spot to defend the status quo from
 

TsWade2

Well-Known Member
I think I should stay out of this. Bye!
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Vegas Disney Fan

Well-Known Member
There is plenty at Disney that aren't profitable but still value-add to the company. For example WDI has an R&D group, it isn't profitable and a lot of times doesn't lead to direct impacts on the Parks. Does he dump it because it doesn't add to the bottom line? I mean where does it stop? Would he even know the difference, or just dump everything that isn't profitable? His normal "MO" is demand breakup, its not even a guess that is his way. He isn't good for the company as he has no real experience with anything Disney does. Disney needs a scalpel, not a sledgehammer.

I know that you and others just want Iger gone at all costs, but this isn't the way. He and Rasulo aren't the droids you are looking for....
Even if Peltz and Rasulo both got nominated they wouldn’t have the power to do any of what you propose. They’d be 2 of 12 directors, or more likely 2 of 14 Directors since Disney bylaws state they can have as many as 21 Directors on the board, and if elected they‘d probably be additions rather than replacing anyone. They‘d have some influence but they’d still be the minority voices on Igers board.

The only way any of what you suggest would happen is if they made such compelling arguments that they convinced the rest of the board it’s a good idea.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Even if Peltz and Rasulo both got nominated they wouldn’t have the power to do any of what you propose. They’d be 2 of 12 directors, or more likely 2 of 14 Directors since Disney bylaws state they can have as many as 21 Directors on the board, and if elected they‘d probably be additions rather than replacing anyone. They‘d have some influence but they’d still be the minority voices on Igers board.

The only way any of what you suggest would happen is if they made such compelling arguments that they convinced the rest of the board it’s a good idea.
I suggest looking at Peltz’s history before you so glibly say he’d have no power.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I suggest looking at Peltz’s history before you so glibly say he’d have no power.
You keep doing this…

We all have the ability to read and analyze history. The Iger defenders have just been resistant to doing it.

He’s done…to stay now goes contrary to good corporate governance.

Nobody wants Peltz…but he’ll go away only on one condition…

Which brings us to the endgame.

This really isn’t hard
 

TsWade2

Well-Known Member
Okay you guys, enough! All I want for Disney is to do better! I know Disney will be fine, but they need to choose the right board of directors to turn things around.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Okay you guys, enough! All I want for Disney is to do better! I know Disney will be fine, but they need to choose the right board of directors to turn things around.
Leave the thread. The discussion on their proxy war - and that is what’s going on - will continue for months…if not years.

It’s an important thing for fans to be aware of
 

Vegas Disney Fan

Well-Known Member
I suggest looking at Peltz’s history before you so glibly say he’d have no power.
Rather than sending me on a wild goose chase just direct me to the examples you are referring to.

I did a google search and checked his wiki page and have found nothing that shows he’s raided companies in the past and convinced the boards to sell them off for pieces, at least point me in the right direction so I can see what you’re talking about.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
You keep doing this…

We all have the ability to read and analyze history. The Iger defenders have just been resistant to doing it.

He’s done…to stay now goes contrary to good corporate governance.

Nobody wants Peltz…but he’ll go away only on one condition…

Which brings us to the endgame.

This really isn’t hard
You really think Peltz only goes away if Iger is removed. Don't be naive....

Ok, lets play this out, Iger goes, then what? What's the plan? Replace him with who? And is that CEO going to be any better, or they just going to be a proxy for Peltz or whomever else?

Hmm, Iger haters don't have any answer beyond that. Its just remove Iger and his team and everything is somehow magically better... it doesn't work that way....

Sorry but I don't think letting the wolf in the hen house is the right move in the first place. I can agree that Iger needs to move on, but not at the risk of anything that Peltz might do.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Rather than sending me on a wild goose chase just direct me to the examples you are referring to.

I did a google search and checked his wiki page and have found nothing that shows he’s raided companies in the past and convinced the boards to sell them off for pieces, at least point me in the right direction so I can see what you’re talking about.
Go look specifically at Kraft and Mondelez, he forced the breakup.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

Well-Known Member
You really think Peltz only goes away if Iger is removed. Don't be naive....

Ok, lets play this out, Iger goes, then what? What's the plan? Replace him with who? And is that CEO going to be any better, or they just going to be a proxy for Peltz or whomever else?

Hmm, Iger haters don't have any answer beyond that. Its just remove Iger and his team and everything is somehow magically better... it doesn't work that way....

Sorry but I don't think letting the wolf in the hen house is the right move in the first place. I can agree that Iger needs to move on, but not at the risk of anything that Peltz might do.
The goal for Peltz is the stock price getting to $120 (or whatever his exit point is) so he can sell his millions of shares and makes a couple billion dollars. Once that happens he’ll likely sell and never mention Disney again.

For that to happen he needs investors to regain their faith in Disney though so the stock price goes back up, that doesn’t necessarily require Iger to be replaced but it does need the direction of the company to change.
 

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