Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[brideck]

…how long have you been a struggling actor?

Oh, man. You're one of those people who think we have to personally experience something to know anything about it?

 

[DKampy]

Right…because are in it for the “arthouse” aspect to let their juices flow…it’s not about the fame or big money.

No way they do press in 5-10 years airing grievances like costanza

It is never good to assume….Some are in it to stretch their acting chops…. See Robert Patterson as someone who could of easily went the blockbuster A-list route after twilight … but instead chose his roles based on interesting characters

 

[Disney Irish]

Right…because are in it for the “arthouse” aspect to let their juices flow…it’s not about the fame or big money.

No way they do press in 5-10 years airing grievances like costanza

After starring in huge franchise movies for so long an actor doesn’t always want to jump right away into more of that, instead opting to do smaller projects for awhile. And then coming back to a large franchise again later down the line.

We had this same conversation about RDJ and Evans, they went off and did other things, and now are coming back to the MCU.

Actors don’t want to be stuck doing the same thing forever. Just like everyone they want a variety in life and in work.

 

[TalkingHead]

Maybe but with every streaming price increase they make it harder to keep those subscriptions. I could see streamers taking a huge hit if we do go into a recession, when you’re paying $15+ a month for 3 or 4 different subscriptions it becomes a very easy cut to make, most people will probably keep one or 2 but I think streaming will be one of the first cuts people make in a pinch.

I think my D+/Hulu/ESPN combo is now $25 a month, if I ever started struggling that would be one of the first cuts I made.

Or ad-supported subscriptions could become more popular. Or FAST platforms like Tubi could gain usage. Interesting times, as they say.

 

[Disney Irish]

In 2024, she was in a live action movie and voiced an animated movie. She's been on Broadway until this past February and is making the international rounds for promoting Snow White.

Did you think she'd be filming a movie while on Broadway?

Whatever points you thought you were going to make against Zegler just redounds as demerits to your credibility.

Not to mention that there are rumors about her starring in several upcoming Disney projects, including their adaptation of the Phantom of the Opera, and as other mentioned potentially being added into the MCU.

She is fine, and will work for years both on and off screen.

 

[Phroobar]

Lack of "large" films or blockbusters does not equal career killing, but I guess those are the same thing to the people who are only aware of the top 50 movies every year.

Ridley's been working steadily with plenty lined up. Boyega (who's not female) has a couple pieces in the works. And I doubt it's Halley Bailey's fault that Golden was shelved, which... man, how did Michel Gondry x Pharrell go wrong? That's too bad.

No. They do have a few in pre-production but Star Wars sure didn't turn them into A-list celebrities. Oscar Isaac and Adam Driver were already A-list and are far busier after Star Wars than Ridley and Boyega even with their silly art house stuff. Those two are still working cheap.

Disney typically kills new talent careers. Just look at all the Disney Channel kids that never went anywhere. Granted some did. Most don't. Some are even dead.

 

[brideck]

No. They do have a few in pre-production but Star Wars sure didn't turn them into A-list celebrities. Oscar Isaac and Adam Driver were already A-list and are far busier after Star Wars than Ridley and Boyega even with their silly art house stuff. Those two are still working cheap.

What makes their art house stuff "silly"? And how on Earth would any of it be "sillier" than what passes for blockbuster movie making/storytelling? Anyway, I feel like we've had this conversation before re: Star Wars movies. That franchise has never created A-listers -- Harrison Ford being the possible exception there, depending on which franchise or role you think actually elevated him to A-list status.

Disney typically kills new talent careers. Just look at all the Disney Channel kids that never went anywhere. Granted some did. Most don't. Some are even dead.

Child actors on TV are such a different thing, though. The number of them who have ever made it to adult success, Disney or no, is very low.

 

[Disney Irish]

No. They do have a few in pre-production but Star Wars sure didn't turn them into A-list celebrities. Oscar Isaac and Adam Driver were already A-list and are far busier after Star Wars than Ridley and Boyega even with their silly art house stuff. Those two are still working cheap.

Disney typically kills new talent careers. Just look at all the Disney Channel kids that never went anywhere. Granted some did. Most don't. Some are even dead.

The movie business is brutal, so I'm not sure why everyone is making this jump to "Disney kills careers".

Just because Ridley and Boyega didn't line up another huge big budget franchise movies after starring in SW doesn't mean that its because Disney killed their career. Are any of you their agents? Do you know what projects they are being offered, and the ones they have turned down? Do you have insight into their decisions on choosing next projects? Have any proof beyond just assumption that they aren't being offered big roles?

Some need to let their clear bias for their dislike of Disney and Disney SW stop clouding the conversation about everything. Actors make all sorts of decisions about their careers that may not make sense to you, none of which have anything to do with Disney or with SW.

 

[erasure fan1]

It would be a mistake to assume that every actor is in it to be famous, to make millions of dollars, or to do the junketing that it takes to be either of the first two. [Source: Too many interviews with actors to count]

Yea, it's never always anything. But I would doubt that many film actors say, I really hope I can be a background actor and not be noticed my whole life. I'm sure not everyone wants to be Tom cruise famous, or command 30mil + a film. But I'd say absolutely most went to Hollywood to be famous.

 

[Disney Irish]

Yea, it's never always anything. But I would doubt that many film actors say, I really hope I can be a background actor and not be noticed my whole life. I'm sure not everyone wants to be Tom cruise famous, or command 30mil + a film. But I'd say absolutely most went to Hollywood to be famous.

The problem is that too many here are making assumptions about an actors career just because they aren't in the next big blockbuster film.

Actors make all sorts of decisions about their careers for all sorts of reasons, just like everyone here. None of us are privy to the offers they are receiving (outside of rumors that float around) or the decisions they are making until publicly announced.

For all we know someone like Zelger (or Ridley or Boyega) is getting huge offers from every studio about every franchise on the planet, and maybe she (and they) has turned down many because they weren't the right fit for her (or them). Or maybe she (or they) auditioned for said franchise and the studio went with someone else. We're outsiders looking in with almost zero information on the inner workings of the business, so assumptions aren't good here and are likely wrong.

There are any number of reasons why an actor isn't in the next big blockbuster, being blackballed by Hollywood for whatever reason some here think is probably 1000th on the list.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Oh, man. You're one of those people who think we have to personally experience something to know anything about it?

No…I’m one of those people with a sense of humor

We’re rare around here

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

After starring in huge franchise movies for so long an actor doesn’t always want to jump right away into more of that, instead opting to do smaller projects for awhile. And then coming back to a large franchise again later down the line.

I agree…when you have enough miles on the tires

We had this same conversation about RDJ and Evans, they went off and did other things, and now are coming back to the MCU.

And i wonder if pay had anything to do with it?

Aren’t you the the one that believes Disney magically cut the budgets in half in a year? Reshoots got awful cheap…guess Downey And Evans did too

Actors don’t want to be stuck doing the same thing forever. Just like everyone they want a variety in life and in work.

Again…seems reasonable. Under the correct conditions

 

[Disney Irish]

I agree…when you have enough miles on the tires

This is an assumption you cannot make. Again actors make all sorts of decisions about their careers that don't revolve around starring in the next big blockbuster franchise.

And i wonder if pay had anything to do with it?

Maybe, or maybe not. Not everything an actor does is directly related to pay.

Aren’t you the the one that believes Disney magically cut the budgets in half in a year? Reshoots got awful cheap…guess Downey And Evans did too

Actors take pay cuts ALL the time to star in movies and tv shows for a variety of reasons, including so the budget can be kept low.

Again…seems reasonable. Under the correct conditions

Again you're making an assumption that you cannot make, as its not up to YOU to say what those "correct conditions" are. Just because YOU would pick doing a specific role in a big budget franchise for an actor for the rest of their lives doesn't mean that is what they want to do with their life.

 

[Chi84]

I didn’t realize Disney is such a career-killer for actors. No wonder they have to pay them so much to appear in Disney films.

I wonder if this is widely known in acting circles. Do you think their agents are smart enough to warn actors away from Disney movies?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I didn’t realize Disney is such a career-killer for actors. No wonder they have to pay them so much to appear in Disney films.

I wonder if this is widely known in acting circles. Do you think their agents are smart enough to warn actors away from Disney movies?

Then you are just glossing over their recent track record…

…because it’s not an unreasonable point

Even though it’s blessed, magical, ne’er do wrong Disney

 

[Phroobar]

I didn’t realize Disney is such a career-killer for actors. No wonder they have to pay them so much to appear in Disney films.

I wonder if this is widely known in acting circles. Do you think their agents are smart enough to warn actors away from Disney movies?

Disney isn't cool to Hollywood.

 

[Disney Irish]

Then you are just glossing over their recent track record…

…because it’s not an unreasonable point

Even though it’s blessed, magical, ne’er do wrong Disney

Except your only barometer for this supposed "Disney kills careers" is "lack of those actors starring in the next big blockbuster franchise", not accepting that other smaller projects are available for actors to take which maybe their desire.

I'm not sure why its reasonable to think because they aren't in the next big blockbuster that its somehow Disney killing their career, but its unreasonable to think its not Disney but of their own free will that they pick other projects.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Except your only barometer for this supposed "Disney kills careers" is "lack of those actors starring in the next big blockbuster franchise", not accepting that other smaller projects are available for actors to take which maybe their desire.

I'm not sure why its reasonable to think because they aren't in the next big blockbuster that its somehow Disney killing their career, but its unreasonable to think its not Disney but of their own free will that they pick other projects.

That is still tbd

If Luke LTE and Ariel 2 start appearing in lots of stuff…then the theory is false

 

[Chi84]

Except your only barometer for this supposed "Disney kills careers" is "lack of those actors starring in the next big blockbuster franchise", not accepting that other smaller projects are available for actors to take which maybe their desire.

I'm not sure why its reasonable to think because they aren't in the next big blockbuster that its somehow Disney killing their career, but its unreasonable to think its not Disney but of their own free will that they pick other projects.

People are saying such silly things here about things they can’t possibly know.

There are so many factors that come into play here that reducing it to Disney having a significant effect is unsupportable.

But people here seem to attribute magical powers to Disney.

 

[Disney Irish]

That is still tbd

If Luke LTE and Ariel 2 start appearing in lots of stuff…then the theory is false

I don't know who "Luke LTE" is (I assume you mean Boyega but not clear).

But Bailey has been in multiple projects. Unfortunately her recent project for Universal got shelved after filming was completed, but that is not her fault or even directly related to her as she was hired and filming was completed. So its clear studios are hiring her and that her career isn't killed by Disney.