Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Chi84]

Who are the precedents you're trying to use here? I'm struggling to think of people without careers from recent Disney movies.

Probably Halle Bailey. TLM released in 2023, she had a baby in December of that year and it’s already 2025. She’s 25 so why doesn’t she have upcoming projects? Obviously Disney’s fault.

 

[coffeefan]

Just rumors, but I'm sure she'll be fine.

 

[Phroobar]

Probably Halle Bailey. TLM released in 2023, she had a baby in December of that year and it’s already 2025. She’s 25 so why doesn’t she have upcoming projects? Obviously Disney’s fault.

Daisey Ridley and John Boyega don't have any large films lined up. Unless Attack the Block 2 is a blockbuster.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Probably Halle Bailey. TLM released in 2023, she had a baby in December of that year and it’s already 2025. She’s 25 so why doesn’t she have upcoming projects? Obviously Disney’s fault.

I wasn’t gonna bring that one up…because the consensus of what the point of that was never really was laid out…and I mean Disneys motives.

So I’m sergeant Shultz on this

 

[TalkingHead]

Just rumors, but I'm sure she'll be fine.

I’d say just shut down Hollywood but the economy will probably take care of that

 

[brideck]

Daisey Ridley and John Boyega don't have any large films lined up. Unless Attack the Block 2 is a blockbuster.

Lack of "large" films or blockbusters does not equal career killing, but I guess those are the same thing to the people who are only aware of the top 50 movies every year.

Ridley's been working steadily with plenty lined up. Boyega (who's not female) has a couple pieces in the works. And I doubt it's Halley Bailey's fault that Golden was shelved, which... man, how did Michel Gondry x Pharrell go wrong? That's too bad.

 

[coffeefan]

I’d say just shut down Hollywood but the economy will probably take care of that

Ironically, I am curious how the upcoming recession will impact the box office and even theme parks. IIRC movie theaters did surprisingly well during the Great Depression. But now with streaming who knows.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Lack of "large" films or blockbusters does not equal career killing, but I guess those are the same thing to the people who are only aware of the top 50 movies every year.

Ridley's been working steadily with plenty lined up. Boyega (who's not female) has a couple pieces in the works. And I doubt it's Halley Bailey's fault that Golden was shelved, which... man, how did Michel Gondry x Pharrell go wrong? That's too bad.

Right…because are in it for the “arthouse” aspect to let their juices flow…it’s not about the fame or big money.

No way they do press in 5-10 years airing grievances like costanza

 

[brideck]

Right…because are in it for the “arthouse” aspect to let their juices flow…it’s not about the fame or big money.

It would be a mistake to assume that every actor is in it to be famous, to make millions of dollars, or to do the junketing that it takes to be either of the first two. [Source: Too many interviews with actors to count]

 

[TalkingHead]

Ironically, I am curious how the upcoming recession will impact the box office and even theme parks. IIRC movie theaters did surprisingly well during the Great Depression. But now with streaming who knows.

Yep, people will stop going before they’ll cut off Netflix, D+, Max, Hulu, etc.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It would be a mistake to assume that every actor is in it to be famous, to make millions of dollars, or to do the junketing that it takes to be either of the first two. [Source: Too many interviews with actors to count]

…how long have you been a struggling actor?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Ironically, I am curious how the upcoming recession will impact the box office and even theme parks. IIRC movie theaters did surprisingly well during the Great Depression. But now with streaming who knows.

Yep, people will stop going before they’ll cut off Netflix, D+, Max, Hulu, etc.

Both amc and regal were on the top of the “probably bankrupt” list during Covid

And since they have large real estate holdings…they’ll likely be liquidated at the first sign of trouble

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Yep, people will stop going before they’ll cut off Netflix, D+, Max, Hulu, etc.

Maybe but with every streaming price increase they make it harder to keep those subscriptions. I could see streamers taking a huge hit if we do go into a recession, when you’re paying $15+ a month for 3 or 4 different subscriptions it becomes a very easy cut to make, most people will probably keep one or 2 but I think streaming will be one of the first cuts people make in a pinch.

I think my D+/Hulu/ESPN combo is now $25 a month, if I ever started struggling that would be one of the first cuts I made.

 

[brideck]

…how long have you been a struggling actor?

Oh, man. You're one of those people who think we have to personally experience something to know anything about it?

 

[DKampy]

Right…because are in it for the “arthouse” aspect to let their juices flow…it’s not about the fame or big money.

No way they do press in 5-10 years airing grievances like costanza

It is never good to assume….Some are in it to stretch their acting chops…. See Robert Patterson as someone who could of easily went the blockbuster A-list route after twilight … but instead chose his roles based on interesting characters

 

[Disney Irish]

Right…because are in it for the “arthouse” aspect to let their juices flow…it’s not about the fame or big money.

No way they do press in 5-10 years airing grievances like costanza

After starring in huge franchise movies for so long an actor doesn’t always want to jump right away into more of that, instead opting to do smaller projects for awhile. And then coming back to a large franchise again later down the line.

We had this same conversation about RDJ and Evans, they went off and did other things, and now are coming back to the MCU.

Actors don’t want to be stuck doing the same thing forever. Just like everyone they want a variety in life and in work.

 

[TalkingHead]

Maybe but with every streaming price increase they make it harder to keep those subscriptions. I could see streamers taking a huge hit if we do go into a recession, when you’re paying $15+ a month for 3 or 4 different subscriptions it becomes a very easy cut to make, most people will probably keep one or 2 but I think streaming will be one of the first cuts people make in a pinch.

I think my D+/Hulu/ESPN combo is now $25 a month, if I ever started struggling that would be one of the first cuts I made.

Or ad-supported subscriptions could become more popular. Or FAST platforms like Tubi could gain usage. Interesting times, as they say.

 

[Disney Irish]

In 2024, she was in a live action movie and voiced an animated movie. She's been on Broadway until this past February and is making the international rounds for promoting Snow White.

Did you think she'd be filming a movie while on Broadway?

Whatever points you thought you were going to make against Zegler just redounds as demerits to your credibility.

Not to mention that there are rumors about her starring in several upcoming Disney projects, including their adaptation of the Phantom of the Opera, and as other mentioned potentially being added into the MCU.

She is fine, and will work for years both on and off screen.

 

[Phroobar]

Lack of "large" films or blockbusters does not equal career killing, but I guess those are the same thing to the people who are only aware of the top 50 movies every year.

Ridley's been working steadily with plenty lined up. Boyega (who's not female) has a couple pieces in the works. And I doubt it's Halley Bailey's fault that Golden was shelved, which... man, how did Michel Gondry x Pharrell go wrong? That's too bad.

No. They do have a few in pre-production but Star Wars sure didn't turn them into A-list celebrities. Oscar Isaac and Adam Driver were already A-list and are far busier after Star Wars than Ridley and Boyega even with their silly art house stuff. Those two are still working cheap.

Disney typically kills new talent careers. Just look at all the Disney Channel kids that never went anywhere. Granted some did. Most don't. Some are even dead.

 

[brideck]

No. They do have a few in pre-production but Star Wars sure didn't turn them into A-list celebrities. Oscar Isaac and Adam Driver were already A-list and are far busier after Star Wars than Ridley and Boyega even with their silly art house stuff. Those two are still working cheap.

What makes their art house stuff "silly"? And how on Earth would any of it be "sillier" than what passes for blockbuster movie making/storytelling? Anyway, I feel like we've had this conversation before re: Star Wars movies. That franchise has never created A-listers -- Harrison Ford being the possible exception there, depending on which franchise or role you think actually elevated him to A-list status.

Disney typically kills new talent careers. Just look at all the Disney Channel kids that never went anywhere. Granted some did. Most don't. Some are even dead.

Child actors on TV are such a different thing, though. The number of them who have ever made it to adult success, Disney or no, is very low.