brideck
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It would be a mistake to assume that every actor is in it to be famous, to make millions of dollars, or to do the junketing that it takes to be either of the first two. [Source: Too many interviews with actors to count]
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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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It would be a mistake to assume that every actor is in it to be famous, to make millions of dollars, or to do the junketing that it takes to be either of the first two. [Source: Too many interviews with actors to count]
TalkingHead
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Yep, people will stop going before they’ll cut off Netflix, D+, Max, Hulu, etc.
Sirwalterraleigh
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…how long have you been a struggling actor?
Sirwalterraleigh
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Both amc and regal were on the top of the “probably bankrupt” list during Covid
And since they have large real estate holdings…they’ll likely be liquidated at the first sign of trouble
Vegas Disney Fan
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Maybe but with every streaming price increase they make it harder to keep those subscriptions. I could see streamers taking a huge hit if we do go into a recession, when you’re paying $15+ a month for 3 or 4 different subscriptions it becomes a very easy cut to make, most people will probably keep one or 2 but I think streaming will be one of the first cuts people make in a pinch.
I think my D+/Hulu/ESPN combo is now $25 a month, if I ever started struggling that would be one of the first cuts I made.
brideck
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…how long have you been a struggling actor?
Oh, man. You're one of those people who think we have to personally experience something to know anything about it?
It is never good to assume….Some are in it to stretch their acting chops…. See Robert Patterson as someone who could of easily went the blockbuster A-list route after twilight … but instead chose his roles based on interesting characters
Disney Irish
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After starring in huge franchise movies for so long an actor doesn’t always want to jump right away into more of that, instead opting to do smaller projects for awhile. And then coming back to a large franchise again later down the line.
We had this same conversation about RDJ and Evans, they went off and did other things, and now are coming back to the MCU.
Actors don’t want to be stuck doing the same thing forever. Just like everyone they want a variety in life and in work.
TalkingHead
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Or ad-supported subscriptions could become more popular. Or FAST platforms like Tubi could gain usage. Interesting times, as they say.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Not to mention that there are rumors about her starring in several upcoming Disney projects, including their adaptation of the Phantom of the Opera, and as other mentioned potentially being added into the MCU.
She is fine, and will work for years both on and off screen.
Phroobar
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No. They do have a few in pre-production but Star Wars sure didn't turn them into A-list celebrities. Oscar Isaac and Adam Driver were already A-list and are far busier after Star Wars than Ridley and Boyega even with their silly art house stuff. Those two are still working cheap.
Disney typically kills new talent careers. Just look at all the Disney Channel kids that never went anywhere. Granted some did. Most don't. Some are even dead.
brideck
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What makes their art house stuff "silly"? And how on Earth would any of it be "sillier" than what passes for blockbuster movie making/storytelling? Anyway, I feel like we've had this conversation before re: Star Wars movies. That franchise has never created A-listers -- Harrison Ford being the possible exception there, depending on which franchise or role you think actually elevated him to A-list status.
Child actors on TV are such a different thing, though. The number of them who have ever made it to adult success, Disney or no, is very low.
Disney Irish
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The movie business is brutal, so I'm not sure why everyone is making this jump to "Disney kills careers".
Just because Ridley and Boyega didn't line up another huge big budget franchise movies after starring in SW doesn't mean that its because Disney killed their career. Are any of you their agents? Do you know what projects they are being offered, and the ones they have turned down? Do you have insight into their decisions on choosing next projects? Have any proof beyond just assumption that they aren't being offered big roles?
Some need to let their clear bias for their dislike of Disney and Disney SW stop clouding the conversation about everything. Actors make all sorts of decisions about their careers that may not make sense to you, none of which have anything to do with Disney or with SW.
erasure fan1
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Yea, it's never always anything. But I would doubt that many film actors say, I really hope I can be a background actor and not be noticed my whole life. I'm sure not everyone wants to be Tom cruise famous, or command 30mil + a film. But I'd say absolutely most went to Hollywood to be famous.
Disney Irish
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The problem is that too many here are making assumptions about an actors career just because they aren't in the next big blockbuster film.
Actors make all sorts of decisions about their careers for all sorts of reasons, just like everyone here. None of us are privy to the offers they are receiving (outside of rumors that float around) or the decisions they are making until publicly announced.
For all we know someone like Zelger (or Ridley or Boyega) is getting huge offers from every studio about every franchise on the planet, and maybe she (and they) has turned down many because they weren't the right fit for her (or them). Or maybe she (or they) auditioned for said franchise and the studio went with someone else. We're outsiders looking in with almost zero information on the inner workings of the business, so assumptions aren't good here and are likely wrong.
There are any number of reasons why an actor isn't in the next big blockbuster, being blackballed by Hollywood for whatever reason some here think is probably 1000th on the list.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Sirwalterraleigh
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I agree…when you have enough miles on the tires
And i wonder if pay had anything to do with it?
Aren’t you the the one that believes Disney magically cut the budgets in half in a year? Reshoots got awful cheap…guess Downey And Evans did too
Again…seems reasonable. Under the correct conditions
Disney Irish
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This is an assumption you cannot make. Again actors make all sorts of decisions about their careers that don't revolve around starring in the next big blockbuster franchise.
Maybe, or maybe not. Not everything an actor does is directly related to pay.And i wonder if pay had anything to do with it?
Actors take pay cuts ALL the time to star in movies and tv shows for a variety of reasons, including so the budget can be kept low.
Again you're making an assumption that you cannot make, as its not up to YOU to say what those "correct conditions" are. Just because YOU would pick doing a specific role in a big budget franchise for an actor for the rest of their lives doesn't mean that is what they want to do with their life.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Then you are just glossing over their recent track record…
…because it’s not an unreasonable point
Even though it’s blessed, magical, ne’er do wrong Disney