Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Disney Irish

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Disney cancels UK Snow White premiere…

This popped up on my MSN feed, I googled it and other sites are reporting it also, no big name sites though so I don’t know if it’s true or just circular reporting based on one source.
Its funny because they just had the Japan premiere last night, which from what I saw was a success as it went off without any drama. So it would be very interesting if they cancelled the UK premiere completely and not rescheduled it.
 

BrianLo

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I actually agree with some of her criticisms about land placement. There's no need to get into another argument about Fantasy Springs- it's been done to death and this is the wrong thread anyway. Still, you're right about the meandering writing style and questionable underlying argument. She needs an editor or someone to ask her whether the article deserves to exist in the first place. Her logic is tenuous at best. There are also dead links in an article that came out less than a year ago. It substantiates your point about reusing content from older pieces. And of course she doesn't present counter examples of people who actually like Fantasy Springs. Someone reading the article would think everyone hates the land. Not so!

I can see why she's not your (or anyone's) favorite author, even if I agree with her sentiments about Tokyo Disney Sea.

I had actually written a response that Fantasy Springs is by no means that solid of a land, but didn't want to run the thread off topic too much. It's more of a culdesac of facades if anything. Some great attractions and little else substantive. But her thesis was premised on some sort of financial crisis of confidence, which is kind of hilarious. Even more in hindsight.

Of course, I, unlike her, have actually been. Which you think would be sort of relevant if you wanted to pump out a never ending essay of some quality. It is clear there wasn't editorial oversight of her content. An editor would also start to pick out the redundancy pretty quickly.
 

Tha Realest

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No it proves exactly what I was trying to say, on a percentage basis Gutfeld (and Fox News in general) skews older than younger compared to other late night shows. From a raw number stand point yes it slightly gets more, but that really doesn't matter to me as I really wasn't looking at ratings from an advertisers point of view anyways that is something that others brought up.
You were responding to an comment that explicitly mentioned the importance of advertising - “Tell that to the network salesmen trying to sell airtime on shows that are losing their audience share” - and then used terms conventionally used in the advertisement and marketing space


I have to ask - what is your point in all of this, other than being dishonestly and unpleasantly argumentative?
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
You were responding to an comment that explicitly mentioned the importance of advertising - “Tell that to the network salesmen trying to sell airtime on shows that are losing their audience share” - and then used terms conventionally used in the advertisement and marketing space


I have to ask - what is your point in all of this, other than being dishonestly and unpleasantly argumentative?
As another poster brought up these are such low numbers anyways for key demos that advertisers aren’t looking at these shows anyways in any major way for ad buys.

As for what is the point of all this, it’s a discussion that started with the Oscars and moved into Late Night.
 

TalkingHead

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Snow White may luck out since there hasn’t been a big family release in a while. Could imagine it overperforming on that basis, but it’s also believable that families may not want to spend the $$$ to see it in theaters. Feels like a good test to see how big budget family fare does outside of holidays and summer.

My sense is if Snow White does poorly/meh, the likelihood of Stitch doing big numbers in May goes up considerably.
 

DKampy

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I say that and according to my viewing history, we apparently saw Parasite for the second time on Mar 15th.
Speaking of Parasite…. I wonder how much more box office it would have added to it’s gross if it were not for the pandemic….it grossed over 53 million…..that is a great take for international feature in the US market already…theater going was already slowing down with people anticipating Covid shutting us down in February and it was a best picture front runner at the Oscar’s witch it won
 

Farerb

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Snow White may luck out since there hasn’t been a big family release in a while. Could imagine it overperforming on that basis, but it’s also believable that families may not want to spend the $$$ to see it in theaters. Feels like a good test to see how big budget family fare does outside of holidays and summer.

My sense is if Snow White does poorly/meh, the likelihood of Stitch doing big numbers in May goes up considerably.
The Day the Earth Blew Up: A Looney Tunes Movie will be released next week and it's fantastic.
 

brideck

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Next week…. Wow… I had no idea…and I go to the theater weekly and keep up with the release schedule….WB must of done awful on promotion

There's a bank of 3 posters for it in our nearest AMC, but I've literally never seen a trailer* for it -- granted I haven't seen Paddington or Dog Man in theaters. On YT, it looks like it's gotten 5m views in 2 weeks. By contrast, Mickey 17 (also WB) has gotten 22m for its 2nd trailer released 6 weeks ago.

*20th Century's The Amateur, on the other hand... Man, we get a trailer for that before nearly every movie regardless of genre. Not that that's translated to online views at all -- only 11m in 16 weeks.
 

DKampy

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There's a bank of 3 posters for it in our nearest AMC, but I've literally never seen a trailer* for it -- granted I haven't seen Paddington or Dog Man in theaters.
I saw exactly one trailer for it about a month ago…. But I had assumed it was far off… as it felt like a teaser as opposed to a full trailer
On YT, it looks like it's gotten 5m views in 2 weeks. By contrast, Mickey 17 (also WB) has gotten 22m for its 2nd trailer released 6 weeks ago.
I have not seen it yet, but I am rooting for Mickey 17….It would be great if big studios would take more chances on original
 

Chi84

Premium Member
I saw exactly one trailer for it about a month ago…. But I had assumed it was far off… as it felt like a teaser as opposed to a full trailer

I have not seen it yet, but I am rooting for Mickey 17….It would be great if big studios would take more chances on original
The book is Mickey 7 but I guess that wasn’t enough gruesome deaths for a movie 🤣
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
The Day the Earth Blew Up: A Looney Tunes Movie will be released next week and it's fantastic.
The movie has been pushed back a number of times, as it was originally a streaming exclusive movie, so doubt many know its actually being released next week here in the US. There has also been very little actual advertisement for it, as its not being released by WB but Ketchup (as WB gave up the distribution rights last year), so that may have something to do with it. And from what I see its also not getting a whole lot of showings overall, so it'll be interesting to see what it does.

Its also already had its international run, which did very little. So this isn't expected to be a huge movie.

Next week…. Wow… I had no idea…and I go to the theater weekly and keep up with the release schedule….WB must of done awful on promotion
As I mentioned above, its not being released by WB, its being released by Ketchup Entertainment. Which is probably why there isn't a whole lot of advertisement for it, as Ketchup is an independent distributor.
 

Agent H

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Snow White may luck out since there hasn’t been a big family release in a while. Could imagine it overperforming on that basis, but it’s also believable that families may not want to spend the $$$ to see it in theaters. Feels like a good test to see how big budget family fare does outside of holidays and summer.

My sense is if Snow White does poorly/meh, the likelihood of Stitch doing big numbers in May goes up considerably.
I’ll do anything to make stitch a success. If it means boycotting Snow White then “so mote it be”
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I can see Snow White doing $400-500 million, but not more in my opinion.
And all things considered I think while a disappointing number compared to its budget, it would be acceptable overall.

Though personally I see it doing a bit more myself, a huge range but I think somewhere between $500-$700M WW is not out of the question.
 

Agent H

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I don't think Stitch will need any help to be a success, I'm sure it'll do fine as it has a lot of nostalgia behind it.
I hope so. My family won’t be seeing Snow White in theaters because my mom does not like the way it looks. At all. I was just illustrating how much I want stitch to be a success.
 

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