Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Disney Analyst]

Chee Hoo Mania At The Box Office: ‘Moana 2’ Dancing To Record 5-Day $215M+ Opening Besting ‘Super Mario Bros’; ‘Wicked’ Wows $118M+ & ‘Gladiator II’ $45M

'Moana 2' 5-day opening is bound for a Thanksgiving record at $215M-$220M. 'Wicked' will see a running total of $243M by Sunday, a record for Broadway musical movie.

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Starting to call a 170+M five day (Frozen 2 was 125M); another case of the first 24H trailer views actually indexing to opening weekends.

I feel like I said something about the trailer views now being one of our best indicators (not perfect of course …)

 

[Jedijax719]

M2 is looking at topping $200 million domestically (probably closer to $220-$230million) for the 5-day holiday. While it won't surpass Inside out 2, M2 should end up over $500 million domestic and should easily reach $1 billion world wide.

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

M2 is looking at topping $200 million domestically (probably closer to $220-$230million) for the 5-day holiday. While it won't surpass Inside out 2, M2 should end up over $500 million domestic and should easily reach $1 billion world wide.

Which is good news, potentially, for turning Tiana’s Disney+ series into The Princess and the Frog 2 for movie theaters, though hopefully for a Thanksgiving 2029 release so they don’t rush it and give it the time to make it hand-drawn animated.

I mean if Disney can turn Moana 2, live-action Lilo & Stitch, Freakier Friday, The Princess Diaries 3, and The Mandalorian & Gorgu, and Armor Wars into theatrical releases, the same should be said for Tiana, too.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Disney would not need ANYTHING from the original movie as their Oz movies have very little to do with it outside of a couple iconic props which wouldn't be needed in this case. Disney built their own version of Oz in both Return to Oz from the 80s and in Oz Great and Powerful from 2013.

I’m just saying: neither of which had anywhere near the impact of Wicked. If Wicked created new stuff, people would go with it. When Disney created new stuff, people longed for the old stuff, because some itch wasn’t being scratched. It was like the Star Wars prequels (to me.) The best parts were missing.

Replacing Judy Garland would be daunting. I don’t think anyone wants to touch remaking the original to reset the series.

If Disney were to create anything related to Oz, people will come with expectations of Luke, Leia, and Han - I mean, Dorothy & friends. The land was cool, but it was the characters we loved most.

Wicked found the magic. The Great Oz film was enjoyable, but not…shall we say, perennial, as is the original.

It’s not so easy to make something people love.

Disney loses this round, IMO.

 

[Disney Irish]

I’m just saying: neither of which had anywhere near the impact of Wicked. If Wicked created new stuff, people would go with it. When Disney created new stuff, people longed for the old stuff, because some itch wasn’t being scratched. It was like the Star Wars prequels (to me.) The best parts were missing.

Replacing Judy Garland would be daunting. I don’t think anyone wants to touch remaking the original to reset the series.

If Disney were to create anything related to Oz, people will come with expectations of Luke, Leia, and Han - I mean, Dorothy & friends. The land was cool, but it was the characters we loved most.

Wicked found the magic. The Great Oz film was enjoyable, but not…shall we say, perennial, as is the original.

It’s not so easy to make something people love.

Disney loses this round, IMO.

We’re talking about a land in a theme park. So I don’t see how one would come with expectations of having specific characters and the other wouldn’t. If one has that expectation so would the other in my opinion, as the general public isn’t going to get into the weeds about the differences between the source material, they’ll just see Oz.

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

Moana 2’s CinemaScore is an A-: https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/s/xwhJeyzaBj.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

We’re talking about a land in a theme park. So I don’t see how one would come with expectations of having specific characters and the other wouldn’t. If one has that expectation so would the other in my opinion, as the general public isn’t going to get into the weeds about the differences between the source material, they’ll just see Oz.

Sorry, thought it was about movies.

As we know, 1939 was well-represented in TGMR. That’s gone.

The idea of “generic Oz” sounds almost as bad as “Generic Space” a la Galaxy’s Edge. Relating it to Disney’s Oz is about the same, I think.

If you don’t have access to the copyrights for the source material, you’re not really giving the people what they want, so don’t bother.You would have to create a masterpiece to make it work.

 

[Disney Irish]

Sorry, thought it was about movies.

As we know, 1939 was well-represented in TGMR. That’s gone.

The idea of “generic Oz” sounds almost as bad as “Generic Space” a la Galaxy’s Edge. Relating it to Disney’s Oz is about the same, I think.

If you don’t have access to the copyrights for the source material, you’re not really giving the people what they want, so don’t bother.You would have to create a masterpiece to make it work.

Dunno, venturing through the Land of Oz with the Emerald City being the “weenie” would be interesting to me, and I would think most people.

 

[Tha Realest]

Dunno, venturing through the Land of Oz with the Emerald City being the “weenie” would be interesting to me, and I would think most people.

Maybe Disney’s third time grappling with the Oz material will be its first true success.

Anything Disney does IRT Oz will be viewed (likely poorly) as compared to the iconic 1939 film and the almost as iconic Wicked.

 

[Disney Analyst]

 

[Disney Irish]

Maybe Disney’s third time grappling with the Oz material will be its first true success.

Anything Disney does IRT Oz will be viewed (likely poorly) as compared to the iconic 1939 film and the almost as iconic Wicked.

Once again this discussion was about making lands in a theme park NOT movies. And it all started because a poster jokingly asked if it was too late for Uni to add a Wicked land into Epic Universe, and I joked back about how Disney can add their own Oz land and they can have competing Oz lands. You guys have turned this into a whole thing about the movies which it was never about.

Oz The Great and Powerful, despite mixed reviews was seen as a commercial success earning almost $500M WW. So it already has a success with the material, it just wasn't successful "enough" for Disney at the time which is why they never continued with it.

 

[Ghost93]

Oz The Great and Powerful, despite mixed reviews was seen as a commercial success earning almost $500M WW. So it already has a success with the material, it just wasn't successful "enough" for Disney at the time which is why they never continued with it.

Oz the Great and Powerful had some good ideas and stunning visuals, but the TERRIBLE performances from James Franco and Mila Kunis destroyed the whole thing. Kunis can be a good actress, but she was miscast, whereas Franco simply didn't even seem like he was trying.

 

[Disney Irish]

Oz the Great and Powerful had some good ideas and stunning visuals, but the TERRIBLE performances from James Franco and Mila Kunis destroyed the whole thing. Kunis can be a good actress, but she was miscast, whereas Franco simply didn't even seem like he was trying.

And that may be, I wasn’t commenting on its quality as a film, but it was still seen as a commercial success due to it earning almost $500M WW. Many a movie that had flat performances by its cast go on to be commercial successes at the box office, this happens to be one of them.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

And that may be, I wasn’t commenting on its quality as a film, but it was still seen as a commercial success due to it earning almost $500M WW. Many a movie that had flat performances by its cast go on to be commercial successes at the box office, this happens to be one of them.

I enjoyed the movie. Haven’t re-watched. Just said it didn’t have the impact of wicked. Hard to argue that.

 

[Disney Irish]

I enjoyed the movie. Haven’t re-watched. Just said it didn’t have the impact of wicked. Hard to argue that.

Never claimed otherwise. You guys have turned what was a joke about dueling theme park lands into an indictment on Oz Great and Powerful.

 

[Ghost93]

And that may be, I wasn’t commenting on its quality as a film, but it was still seen as a commercial success due to it earning almost $500M WW. Many a movie that had flat performances by its cast go on to be commercial successes at the box office, this happens to be one of them.

It was a commercial success, but the poor reception would have prevented it from launching a successful franchise. I'd imagine a sequel would have a similar drop from Alice in Wonderland (2010) to Alice: Through the Looking Glass.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Never claimed otherwise. You guys have turned what was a joke about dueling theme park lands into an indictment on Oz Great and Powerful.

It’s just a discussion.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Chee Hoo Mania At The Box Office: ‘Moana 2’ Dancing To Record 5-Day $215M+ Opening Besting ‘Super Mario Bros’; ‘Wicked’ Wows $118M+ & ‘Gladiator II’ $45M

'Moana 2' 5-day opening is bound for a Thanksgiving record at $215M-$220M. 'Wicked' will see a running total of $243M by Sunday, a record for Broadway musical movie.

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THANKSGIVING UPDATE: It turns out Moana, singing witches and gladiators can co-exist together and won’t devour each other. All boats rose in the first day of the Thanksgiving stretch as Disney’s opening day of Moana 2, Universal’s Wicked and Paramount’s Gladiator II led all titles to a $92.2M Wednesday, which was easily the second highest grossing moviegoing day of 2024 after Friday, July 26, when Disney/Marvel Studios’ Deadpool & Wolverine drove all titles to a $118.3M gross. Read further down, tomorrow, Black Friday, is bound to push yesterday’s harvest to third best daily tally of the year.


Moana 2 came in with $57.5M yesterday, including $13.8M Tuesday previews, which made it the best day ever for a Walt Disney Animation title, and the third best opening for an animated movie after Incredibles 2 ($71.2M) and Inside Out 2 ($63.5M). Disney continues to see a 5-day $175M+ five-day Thanksgiving record, not only for an opening title, but theatrical release during the holiday period. 3-day is at $116M. The swing factor is tomorrow, Black Friday in regards to how massive, or how short Moana 2 goes. No one is expecting her to fall into the ocean — rivals see this Disney animated sequel sailing past $200M+ by Sunday. Moana 2 gets an A- CinemaScore, which is the same as Frozen 2. Disney’s most watched movie on Disney+, the original Moana, got an A.

Wicked saw its highest weekday gross yesterday so far, and the fourth highest day in its run with a fantastic $20.4M. Doesn’t seem like anyone minds the 2 hour and 40 minute running time, and there is a vibrant confidence from sources about the pic’s legs. This puts the Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo movie toward a second weekend of $63.3M (-44%) and a 5-day of $97.1M. Don’t be surprised if it hits $100M. Running total by Sunday makes it the highest grossing movie based on a Broadway show at $242M. How high does this Jon M. Chu directed musical feature go? The highest grossing musicals of all-time at the domestic box office belong to Warner Bros’ Barbie ($636.2M), The Lion King ($543.6M), and Disney’s live-action take of Beauty and the Beast ($504.4M).

 

[LittleBuford]

Chee Hoo Mania At The Box Office: ‘Moana 2’ Dancing To Record 5-Day $215M+ Opening Besting ‘Super Mario Bros’; ‘Wicked’ Wows $118M+ & ‘Gladiator II’ $45M

'Moana 2' 5-day opening is bound for a Thanksgiving record at $215M-$220M. 'Wicked' will see a running total of $243M by Sunday, a record for Broadway musical movie.

deadline.com

THANKSGIVING UPDATE: It turns out Moana, singing witches and gladiators can co-exist together and won’t devour each other. All boats rose in the first day of the Thanksgiving stretch as Disney’s opening day of Moana 2, Universal’s Wicked and Paramount’s Gladiator II led all titles to a $92.2M Wednesday, which was easily the second highest grossing moviegoing day of 2024 after Friday, July 26, when Disney/Marvel Studios’ Deadpool & Wolverine drove all titles to a $118.3M gross. Read further down, tomorrow, Black Friday, is bound to push yesterday’s harvest to third best daily tally of the year.


Moana 2 came in with $57.5M yesterday, including $13.8M Tuesday previews, which made it the best day ever for a Walt Disney Animation title, and the third best opening for an animated movie after Incredibles 2 ($71.2M) and Inside Out 2 ($63.5M). Disney continues to see a 5-day $175M+ five-day Thanksgiving record, not only for an opening title, but theatrical release during the holiday period. 3-day is at $116M. The swing factor is tomorrow, Black Friday in regards to how massive, or how short Moana 2 goes. No one is expecting her to fall into the ocean — rivals see this Disney animated sequel sailing past $200M+ by Sunday. Moana 2 gets an A- CinemaScore, which is the same as Frozen 2. Disney’s most watched movie on Disney+, the original Moana, got an A.

Wicked saw its highest weekday gross yesterday so far, and the fourth highest day in its run with a fantastic $20.4M. Doesn’t seem like anyone minds the 2 hour and 40 minute running time, and there is a vibrant confidence from sources about the pic’s legs. This puts the Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo movie toward a second weekend of $63.3M (-44%) and a 5-day of $97.1M. Don’t be surprised if it hits $100M. Running total by Sunday makes it the highest grossing movie based on a Broadway show at $242M. How high does this Jon M. Chu directed musical feature go? The highest grossing musicals of all-time at the domestic box office belong to Warner Bros’ Barbie ($636.2M), The Lion King ($543.6M), and Disney’s live-action take of Beauty and the Beast ($504.4M).

Seeing Moana tomorrow and rewatching Wicked on Saturday (and I almost never rewatch films at the cinema). It's great to see the box office bounce back after the last few years!

 

[LittleBuford]

I can't get over how good Cynthia Erivo's rendition of "The Wizard and I" is!