Tha Realest
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Maybe Disney’s third time grappling with the Oz material will be its first true success.
Anything Disney does IRT Oz will be viewed (likely poorly) as compared to the iconic 1939 film and the almost as iconic Wicked.
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Anything Disney does IRT Oz will be viewed (likely poorly) as compared to the iconic 1939 film and the almost as iconic Wicked.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Once again this discussion was about making lands in a theme park NOT movies. And it all started because a poster jokingly asked if it was too late for Uni to add a Wicked land into Epic Universe, and I joked back about how Disney can add their own Oz land and they can have competing Oz lands. You guys have turned this into a whole thing about the movies which it was never about.
Oz The Great and Powerful, despite mixed reviews was seen as a commercial success earning almost $500M WW. So it already has a success with the material, it just wasn't successful "enough" for Disney at the time which is why they never continued with it.
Ghost93
Well-Known Member
Oz the Great and Powerful had some good ideas and stunning visuals, but the TERRIBLE performances from James Franco and Mila Kunis destroyed the whole thing. Kunis can be a good actress, but she was miscast, whereas Franco simply didn't even seem like he was trying.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
And that may be, I wasn’t commenting on its quality as a film, but it was still seen as a commercial success due to it earning almost $500M WW. Many a movie that had flat performances by its cast go on to be commercial successes at the box office, this happens to be one of them.
Tony the Tigger
Well-Known Member
I enjoyed the movie. Haven’t re-watched. Just said it didn’t have the impact of wicked. Hard to argue that.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Never claimed otherwise. You guys have turned what was a joke about dueling theme park lands into an indictment on Oz Great and Powerful.
Ghost93
Well-Known Member
It was a commercial success, but the poor reception would have prevented it from launching a successful franchise. I'd imagine a sequel would have a similar drop from Alice in Wonderland (2010) to Alice: Through the Looking Glass.
Tony the Tigger
Well-Known Member
It’s just a discussion.
Chee Hoo Mania At The Box Office: ‘Moana 2’ $225M+ 5-Day Opening Is Best 5-Day & Thanksgiving Ever; ‘Wicked’ Wows $118M+ & ‘Gladiator II’ $44M+ – Monday Update
'Moana 2' 5-day opening posts a Thanksgiving record and overall 5-day opening at $225.2M. 'Wicked' is the highest grossing Broadway musical movie at $263.1M.
deadline.com
THANKSGIVING UPDATE: It turns out Moana, singing witches and gladiators can co-exist together and won’t devour each other. All boats rose in the first day of the Thanksgiving stretch as Disney’s opening day of Moana 2, Universal’s Wicked and Paramount’s Gladiator II led all titles to a $92.2M Wednesday, which was easily the second highest grossing moviegoing day of 2024 after Friday, July 26, when Disney/Marvel Studios’ Deadpool & Wolverine drove all titles to a $118.3M gross. Read further down, tomorrow, Black Friday, is bound to push yesterday’s harvest to third best daily tally of the year.
Moana 2 came in with $57.5M yesterday, including $13.8M Tuesday previews, which made it the best day ever for a Walt Disney Animation title, and the third best opening for an animated movie after Incredibles 2 ($71.2M) and Inside Out 2 ($63.5M). Disney continues to see a 5-day $175M+ five-day Thanksgiving record, not only for an opening title, but theatrical release during the holiday period. 3-day is at $116M. The swing factor is tomorrow, Black Friday in regards to how massive, or how short Moana 2 goes. No one is expecting her to fall into the ocean — rivals see this Disney animated sequel sailing past $200M+ by Sunday. Moana 2 gets an A- CinemaScore, which is the same as Frozen 2. Disney’s most watched movie on Disney+, the original Moana, got an A.
Wicked saw its highest weekday gross yesterday so far, and the fourth highest day in its run with a fantastic $20.4M. Doesn’t seem like anyone minds the 2 hour and 40 minute running time, and there is a vibrant confidence from sources about the pic’s legs. This puts the Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo movie toward a second weekend of $63.3M (-44%) and a 5-day of $97.1M. Don’t be surprised if it hits $100M. Running total by Sunday makes it the highest grossing movie based on a Broadway show at $242M. How high does this Jon M. Chu directed musical feature go? The highest grossing musicals of all-time at the domestic box office belong to Warner Bros’ Barbie ($636.2M), The Lion King ($543.6M), and Disney’s live-action take of Beauty and the Beast ($504.4M).
LittleBuford
Well-Known Member
Seeing Moana tomorrow and rewatching Wicked on Saturday (and I almost never rewatch films at the cinema). It's great to see the box office bounce back after the last few years!Chee Hoo Mania At The Box Office: ‘Moana 2’ $225M+ 5-Day Opening Is Best 5-Day & Thanksgiving Ever; ‘Wicked’ Wows $118M+ & ‘Gladiator II’ $44M+ – Monday Update
'Moana 2' 5-day opening posts a Thanksgiving record and overall 5-day opening at $225.2M. 'Wicked' is the highest grossing Broadway musical movie at $263.1M.
THANKSGIVING UPDATE: It turns out Moana, singing witches and gladiators can co-exist together and won’t devour each other. All boats rose in the first day of the Thanksgiving stretch as Disney’s opening day of Moana 2, Universal’s Wicked and Paramount’s Gladiator II led all titles to a $92.2M Wednesday, which was easily the second highest grossing moviegoing day of 2024 after Friday, July 26, when Disney/Marvel Studios’ Deadpool & Wolverine drove all titles to a $118.3M gross. Read further down, tomorrow, Black Friday, is bound to push yesterday’s harvest to third best daily tally of the year.
Moana 2 came in with $57.5M yesterday, including $13.8M Tuesday previews, which made it the best day ever for a Walt Disney Animation title, and the third best opening for an animated movie after Incredibles 2 ($71.2M) and Inside Out 2 ($63.5M). Disney continues to see a 5-day $175M+ five-day Thanksgiving record, not only for an opening title, but theatrical release during the holiday period. 3-day is at $116M. The swing factor is tomorrow, Black Friday in regards to how massive, or how short Moana 2 goes. No one is expecting her to fall into the ocean — rivals see this Disney animated sequel sailing past $200M+ by Sunday. Moana 2 gets an A- CinemaScore, which is the same as Frozen 2. Disney’s most watched movie on Disney+, the original Moana, got an A.
Wicked saw its highest weekday gross yesterday so far, and the fourth highest day in its run with a fantastic $20.4M. Doesn’t seem like anyone minds the 2 hour and 40 minute running time, and there is a vibrant confidence from sources about the pic’s legs. This puts the Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo movie toward a second weekend of $63.3M (-44%) and a 5-day of $97.1M. Don’t be surprised if it hits $100M. Running total by Sunday makes it the highest grossing movie based on a Broadway show at $242M. How high does this Jon M. Chu directed musical feature go? The highest grossing musicals of all-time at the domestic box office belong to Warner Bros’ Barbie ($636.2M), The Lion King ($543.6M), and Disney’s live-action take of Beauty and the Beast ($504.4M).
LittleBuford
Well-Known Member
I can't get over how good Cynthia Erivo's rendition of "The Wizard and I" is!
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Correct it is, one that was never about the film. Either way it was just a joke about dueling Oz lands, one that will never happen anyways. So don’t know why this whole indictment of Disney’s Oz became so serious.
brideck
Well-Known Member
Haven't seen Wicked yet, but she is such a good singer. The first thing I remember seeing her in was Bad Times at the El Royale, which isn't a musical, but she plays a singer in that and really belts it.
... And I just learned that she has a Tony for The Color Purple -- makes total sense.
LittleBuford
Well-Known Member
I hadn't heard her sing before Wicked, and her performance just blew me away. I will definitely check out her other work in the weeks ahead.
FRIDAY UPDATE: Disney’s Moana 2 grossed a massive $28M on Thanksgiving Day, which is the most any movie has ever made on the foodie holiday; the sequel towering over previous champ Frozen 2 ($14.9M).
Moana 2 isn’t soaking up all the water: Universal’s Wicked scored the second-best Thanksgiving Day take ever for a movie at $16.9M. Uni has upped its forecast for the movie to $105.6M over 5-days, which will ultimately be the 4th highest 5-day haul ever for a movie over Thanksgiving after Moana 2, Frozen 2 ($125M) and Hunger Games: Catching Fire ($109.9M). That’s nothing to complain about.
Disney is maintaining their $175M+ forecast over 5-days for the film, even though others see this sequel well past $200M. Today’s business will determine how much to the heavens this Dwyane Johnson-Auli’i Cravalho movie goes. On a 3-day basis, Moana 2 is expected to be Johnson’s second highest opening of all-time, behind Furious 7‘s $147.1M. As we already reported, Johnson is a box office anomaly: He’s the only Hollywood star to open two No. 1 films in the same month, the other being Amazon MGM Studio’s Red One. Two-day take on Moana 2 stands at $85.5M, while global is just under $110M. Among all Thursdays, Moana 2 is the 8th biggest.
deadline.com
Moana 2 isn’t soaking up all the water: Universal’s Wicked scored the second-best Thanksgiving Day take ever for a movie at $16.9M. Uni has upped its forecast for the movie to $105.6M over 5-days, which will ultimately be the 4th highest 5-day haul ever for a movie over Thanksgiving after Moana 2, Frozen 2 ($125M) and Hunger Games: Catching Fire ($109.9M). That’s nothing to complain about.
Disney is maintaining their $175M+ forecast over 5-days for the film, even though others see this sequel well past $200M. Today’s business will determine how much to the heavens this Dwyane Johnson-Auli’i Cravalho movie goes. On a 3-day basis, Moana 2 is expected to be Johnson’s second highest opening of all-time, behind Furious 7‘s $147.1M. As we already reported, Johnson is a box office anomaly: He’s the only Hollywood star to open two No. 1 films in the same month, the other being Amazon MGM Studio’s Red One. Two-day take on Moana 2 stands at $85.5M, while global is just under $110M. Among all Thursdays, Moana 2 is the 8th biggest.
Chee Hoo Mania At The Box Office: ‘Moana 2’ $225M+ 5-Day Opening Is Best 5-Day & Thanksgiving Ever; ‘Wicked’ Wows $118M+ & ‘Gladiator II’ $44M+ – Monday Update
'Moana 2' 5-day opening posts a Thanksgiving record and overall 5-day opening at $225.2M. 'Wicked' is the highest grossing Broadway musical movie at $263.1M.
deadline.com
BrianLo
Well-Known Member
A rising tide raises all ships! Moana and Wicked are absolutely killing in.
Wish I could remember who or when we had the conversation that I thought Moana had become just as if not bigger than Frozen recently… based on how much it’s blowing frozen 2 out of the water, I stand by that conviction.
Wish I could remember who or when we had the conversation that I thought Moana had become just as if not bigger than Frozen recently… based on how much it’s blowing frozen 2 out of the water, I stand by that conviction.
Amazing hold by Wicked if accurate.
Going to be a stellar second weekend.
Going to be a stellar second weekend.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
The same X poster is predicting $225M for Moana 2, which would be amazing if it did but think that is a bit high based on where things are right now.
Tony the Tigger
Well-Known Member
I think it’s probably very re-watchable. I saw it once. A friend of mine mentioned going, and I said I would go see it again. Probably next week.