Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Disney Analyst]

Can We Get A Chee Hoo? ‘Moana 2’ Easily Hooking Best Thanksgiving Opening At $170M+, More Records To Be Broken; ‘Wicked’ $92M & ‘Gladiator II’ $39M+ – Box Office

'Moana 2' five-day opening is bound to be a Thanksgiving record at $170M+, possibly even more. 'Wicked' will clear $236M by Sunday of Thanksgiving.

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Starting to call a 170+M five day (Frozen 2 was 125M); another case of the first 24H trailer views actually indexing to opening weekends.

I feel like I said something about the trailer views now being one of our best indicators (not perfect of course …)

 

[Jedijax719]

M2 is looking at topping $200 million domestically (probably closer to $220-$230million) for the 5-day holiday. While it won't surpass Inside out 2, M2 should end up over $500 million domestic and should easily reach $1 billion world wide.

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

M2 is looking at topping $200 million domestically (probably closer to $220-$230million) for the 5-day holiday. While it won't surpass Inside out 2, M2 should end up over $500 million domestic and should easily reach $1 billion world wide.

Which is good news, potentially, for turning Tiana’s Disney+ series into The Princess and the Frog 2 for movie theaters, though hopefully for a Thanksgiving 2029 release so they don’t rush it and give it the time to make it hand-drawn animated.

I mean if Disney can turn Moana 2, live-action Lilo & Stitch, Freakier Friday, The Princess Diaries 3, and The Mandalorian & Gorgu, and Armor Wars into theatrical releases, the same should be said for Tiana, too.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Disney would not need ANYTHING from the original movie as their Oz movies have very little to do with it outside of a couple iconic props which wouldn't be needed in this case. Disney built their own version of Oz in both Return to Oz from the 80s and in Oz Great and Powerful from 2013.

I’m just saying: neither of which had anywhere near the impact of Wicked. If Wicked created new stuff, people would go with it. When Disney created new stuff, people longed for the old stuff, because some itch wasn’t being scratched. It was like the Star Wars prequels (to me.) The best parts were missing.

Replacing Judy Garland would be daunting. I don’t think anyone wants to touch remaking the original to reset the series.

If Disney were to create anything related to Oz, people will come with expectations of Luke, Leia, and Han - I mean, Dorothy & friends. The land was cool, but it was the characters we loved most.

Wicked found the magic. The Great Oz film was enjoyable, but not…shall we say, perennial, as is the original.

It’s not so easy to make something people love.

Disney loses this round, IMO.

 

[Disney Irish]

I’m just saying: neither of which had anywhere near the impact of Wicked. If Wicked created new stuff, people would go with it. When Disney created new stuff, people longed for the old stuff, because some itch wasn’t being scratched. It was like the Star Wars prequels (to me.) The best parts were missing.

Replacing Judy Garland would be daunting. I don’t think anyone wants to touch remaking the original to reset the series.

If Disney were to create anything related to Oz, people will come with expectations of Luke, Leia, and Han - I mean, Dorothy & friends. The land was cool, but it was the characters we loved most.

Wicked found the magic. The Great Oz film was enjoyable, but not…shall we say, perennial, as is the original.

It’s not so easy to make something people love.

Disney loses this round, IMO.

We’re talking about a land in a theme park. So I don’t see how one would come with expectations of having specific characters and the other wouldn’t. If one has that expectation so would the other in my opinion, as the general public isn’t going to get into the weeds about the differences between the source material, they’ll just see Oz.

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

Moana 2’s CinemaScore is an A-: https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/s/xwhJeyzaBj.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

We’re talking about a land in a theme park. So I don’t see how one would come with expectations of having specific characters and the other wouldn’t. If one has that expectation so would the other in my opinion, as the general public isn’t going to get into the weeds about the differences between the source material, they’ll just see Oz.

Sorry, thought it was about movies.

As we know, 1939 was well-represented in TGMR. That’s gone.

The idea of “generic Oz” sounds almost as bad as “Generic Space” a la Galaxy’s Edge. Relating it to Disney’s Oz is about the same, I think.

If you don’t have access to the copyrights for the source material, you’re not really giving the people what they want, so don’t bother.You would have to create a masterpiece to make it work.

 

[Disney Irish]

Sorry, thought it was about movies.

As we know, 1939 was well-represented in TGMR. That’s gone.

The idea of “generic Oz” sounds almost as bad as “Generic Space” a la Galaxy’s Edge. Relating it to Disney’s Oz is about the same, I think.

If you don’t have access to the copyrights for the source material, you’re not really giving the people what they want, so don’t bother.You would have to create a masterpiece to make it work.

Dunno, venturing through the Land of Oz with the Emerald City being the “weenie” would be interesting to me, and I would think most people.