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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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Hopefully he's learned from making In the Heights. I was not a fan of the direction in that screen adaptation -- so many of the dance sequences in that one had a ton of MTV cutting and closeups instead of just letting the choreography do the work.
Exactly.
But yes, many other recent attempts have failed. But Wicked is a beast of property. It had far wider audience appeal than Cats, or West Side Story, and it only fails if it’s bad, and so far it sounds like it’s good. Audiences will show up.
Disstevefan1
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The Greatest Showman is a GREAT movie!
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Not to mention that West Side was still a pandemic release, even in late 2021.
Animaniac93-98
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Greatest Showman made $469 million worldwide on an $84 million budget
The movie is divisive to say the least, but it certainly made money
Animaniac93-98
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Wicked currently at 92% on RT based on 111 reviews.
I can't not see it being a hit at this point, despite the common criticism of its length.
I can't not see it being a hit at this point, despite the common criticism of its length.
Disney Irish
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The real question is are families going to see it or Moana? With most families only seeing a max of one movie a month, its going to be a choice.
Though I have seen online some rumblings about a "Barbenheimer" type thing potentially happen with Moana and Wicked. What do we call that, "Micked", "Moicked", "Wioana"?
Vegas Disney Fan
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I’m not usually a movie musical guy (although I enjoy live theater musicals) but this movie was great.
Whoever cast it did an amazing job. Every character played their part perfectly.
‘Wicked’ To Win Over The World With $165M-$200M Opening; ‘Gladiator II’ Passing $100M Overseas Today With An Eye On $60M+ U.S. Weekend – Box Office Preview
'Glicked' -- 'Gladiator II' and 'Wicked' -- is about to take effect this weekend at the box office.
deadline.com
“Universal’s female Jurassic World movie, if you will, the feature take of the Broadway musical Wicked, is expected to pull in any every single woman to the tune of a $125 million-$150 million domestic opening this weekend. Add in an extra $40M-$50M from its overseas launch.
By every single woman we mean in the U.S., where pre-sales are through the roof; we’re hearing that they’re around $30M+. The movie is already holding previews, last night and Wednesday in premium theaters via an Amazon promotion, with regularly scheduled early screenings starting Thursday at 2 p.m. Last night’s preview was strong enough business-wise to land Wicked a 99% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.
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Glicked is about to take effect at the box office. If anything, with Moana 2 coming on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving, the holiday stretch from this Friday through the Sunday after Black Friday is expected to be the highest-grossing ever at the domestic box office for all films.
There’s a little bit of a Barbie moment going on with Wicked in terms of pre-sales,” one industry insider commented this morning. “They just keep going up and up with tracking numbers through the roof.” Quorum reports that Wicked ranks as the firm’s most highest-tracked title in its post-Covid run with 70% total awareness.“
I think there will be some cross over. People will defy expectations if the films are good. Good films bring people out, more than the averages we expect.
If they are picking one over the other, families will be going to Moana, and you’ll see a similar audience to Barbie hitting up Wicked.
Tony the Tigger
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I’ve been hearing it more as Wicked paired with Gladiator.
Haven’t seen it!
Vegas Disney Fan
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That’s shocking, the music is amazing and Jackman, Efron, and Zendaya are wonderful. The whole cast was great.I think good movies can lift all movies….if you had a great time at the theater a person is more likely to go again
Tony the Tigger
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Musicals are a tough sell for me. (I know, I know.
)Music is my life. The flip side of that is: being forced to sit through a song I don’t know or like is tormenting me.
Songs for the sake of songs in a musical drive me bonkers. If someone is walking down the street and singing about walking down the street - rather than advancing the plot - I’m bored.
Now if we’re talking movies, and I’ve come to love songs on the radio first (Grease, nothing recent, etc.) then I’m more interested because I’ll enjoy the songs regardless of the circumstances.
Even when I finally got into Judy Garland movies beyond the Wizard of Oz (on TCM) I’d often forward through many of the songs just to understand the plot of the movie. I just wanted to know what happened more than I wanted all action to stop while someone sang a song. (Now, if I liked the movie, I rewatch it with the songs lol.)
With Wicked - I don’t think the well-known songs are that great. I first heard “Popular” and “Defying Gravity” at karaoke and it was so boring, even when done well. (This is gay bar karaoke, there’s a fair shot it’s getting done well lol.) I enjoyed them better the one time I saw the live show, in context. The songs are not what will get me to see the film version. My love for the original Wizard of Oz will.
Tony the Tigger
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Ghost93
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In defense of Cats, which is an awful movie, I will give the movie credit for trying something unique with its aesthetic and approach. It didn't work out at all, but I at least felt somewhat of an effort was made. For that reason alone, I think it's superior to the other 2019-cat related abomination — the creatively bankrupt remake of The Lion King.On thing is for certain, it should be better than Cats.
Wendy Pleakley
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Two hours for me is a good maximum, and anything longer I feel a movie really needs to earn it.
Avengers works because there's a lot of characters to serve and we're invested in them. Titanic as well. Avatar(s) could have used a little trimming but were acceptable.
On other other hand, there's things like the live action Transformers movies that push 2.5 hours. Why? They're padded with a lot of inane scenes. They're expensive to make so we aren't getting more action. They're dumb movies and I should walk out with at least the feeling that it was a fun ride, instead they cross over into tedium.
They did well though so who knows. Box office wise, there's probably some downside to long run times. It's more of a personal preference I guess.
IMO the length a movie deserves depends on the film…. I have seen 2 hour movies that felt rushed and 90 minute movies that felt like for ever watching it..for example Oppenheimer held my attention the entire time even though it was a 3 hour movie… I did not even take a bathroom break for fear of missing something…. that it was able to do that despite the subject matter… it deserved it's Oscar wins