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Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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DKampy said:
I don’t see it having huge impact… I think the big holiday releases will steal the attention from Red One…. But would guess it is going to become a holiday tradition for many years to come… which was probably Amazons goal … as it was originally intended for streaming only
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Well it was also intended to become a franchise but I don't see that happening.
 
Ghost93

Ghost93

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Disney Analyst said:
I love Wicked, so I’m excited, but I firmly agree that movies these days are too long. If they insist on 2.5+ hour long movies, theatres need to bring back intermissions.
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In theory the 2.5 hour runtime might seem like a deterrent yet almost all of the highest grossing movies of all time — both Avatars, Titanic, Avengers Endgame — are more than 3 hours long. This isn't just a recent trend. If you adjust for inflation and look at the 10 highest grossing movies of all time, movies like Gone with the Wind, the Sound of Music, the Ten Commandments and Dr. Zhivago are all 3-4 hours.

If Wicked is a good movie, the runtime won't be a problem. When people are having a great time, they don't want a movie to end. It's only when the movie is mediocre that audiences really begin to feel the length.
 
LittleBuford

LittleBuford

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Ghost93 said:
In theory the 2.5 hour runtime might seem like a deterrent yet almost all of the highest grossing movies of all time — both Avatars, Titanic, Avengers Endgame — are more than 3 hours long. This isn't just a recent trend. If you adjust for inflation and look at the 10 highest grossing movies of all time, movies like Gone with the Wind, the Sound of Music, the Ten Commandments and Dr. Zhivago are all 3-4 hours.

If Wicked is a good movie, the runtime won't be a problem. When people are having a great time, they don't want a movie to end. It's only when the movie is mediocre that audiences really begin to feel the length.
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I do wish they’d bring back intermissions, though.
 
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brideck

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Disney Analyst said:
I love Wicked, so I’m excited, but I firmly agree that movies these days are too long. If they insist on 2.5+ hour long movies, theatres need to bring back intermissions.
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The long runtime was making me think that they're incorporating more from the novel into the musical's story, but that seems hard to do while maintaining that PG rating, so I'm not sure what all's going into turning a ~3 hour musical into a movie that's twice that length.
 
Disney Analyst

Disney Analyst

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brideck said:
The long runtime was making me think that they're incorporating more from the novel into the musical's story, but that seems hard to do while maintaining that PG rating, so I'm not sure what all's going into turning a ~3 hour musical into a movie that's twice that length.
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I do hope they've expanded into the world of Wicked more, although I do doubt they'll have the famous... scenes from the book... that involve oil... and... R rated scenes.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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I've said it before too; the first half of the musical is where the good half of the music is. Though I suspect they'll reprise and maybe add a song or two to fluff out part two.

The first half of the musical is also 90 minutes and 60 in the back end. I'm not opposed in theory to a split, but it's just a clearly stronger first act musical. All of which doesn't really impact this movie, but rather the sequel. Which I guess based on the musical run length is more or less going to be mostly new material.
 
Ghost93

Ghost93

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LittleBuford said:
I do wish they’d bring back intermissions, though.
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Oh I agree. I enjoyed seeing Oppenheimer and Killers of the Flower Moon in theaters last year, but I would have really appreciated an intermission midway through at some point.

I saw a screening of the extended versions of the Lord of the Rings in theaters as well. I thought there would be an intermission at the point where — if you own the DVDs or Blu Rays — the first disc ends and it says "the story will continue on Disc 2." Instead, The Return of the King extended cut — which is FOUR HOURS — continued with no intermission. Thankfully I already have seen the movie a gazillion times, so I didn't mind briefly leaving to use the restroom.

Earlier this year I saw Gone with the Wind in theaters as part of a Fathom Events showing. The screening kept the intermission intact and I very much appreciated it!
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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Get back to me when you attend 15 hours of The Ring of the Nibelung. Or 8 hours of The Life and Adventures of Nicholas Nickleby stage production.

Or Whitney Houston's music video for How Will I Know which feels like forever.
 
Disney Analyst

Disney Analyst

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Never seen this before. Critics review aren’t out quite yet (shortly), but audience ratings already 99%:

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Is this coming for an A+ cinema score?
 
Disney Analyst

Disney Analyst

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Phroobar said:
Just saying that modern musical movies don't do well. Cats, The Greatest Showman, Westside Story all failed. I guess Wicked is different.
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Greatest Showman was succesful I thought? Definitely made a profit against its budget.

The big issue is they don't know how to direct a musical these days for film. But I am seeing a lot of people saying Jon Chu gets it, and this is up there with Chicago, Mamma Mia, etc.
 

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