Disney Irish
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You just need to stop paying attention to them. They have no power over the box office.
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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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DisneyWarrior27
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Plus, you forget, they said Despicable Me 4 would outgross Inside Out 2 worldwide and that turned out to be a bold-faced lie.
Interesting!
The beginning of Pro's descent on these forums when he tried to pass himself off as an insider was when he said that Disney had projections that Frozen 2 would bomb.
Frozen 2 made more than Frozen and was temporarily the number one animated film.
Pro never admitted he was wrong.
Stop watching his YouTube channel. It's toxic.
BrianLo
Well-Known Member
The trouble was he I think was committed to this position a couple weeks into the gross. He also actively did not understand how box office was split between domestic and global.
Which is quaint when you are claiming to be an expert and/or authority.
I’m sure his guess record last year was better and this year is awful.
Disstevefan1
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That's true, they need the write offs
JK.Seriously, I agree, they do need to make movies even if many lose money as their movies are really very expensive commercials for their brand.
Its just the cost of doing business.
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‘Deadpool & Wolverine’ Overtakes ‘Barbie’ In All-Time Domestic Box Office Receipts
Greta Gerwig's meta-comedy, however, still ranks ahead of the Ryan Reynolds-Hugh Jackman smash hit at the worldwide box office.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
More:Here is the article about it -
‘Prince Charming’ Movie In Works At Disney With Paul King Aboard To Direct
Paul King has come aboard to direct a Prince Charming movie for Disney.deadline.com
Its very possible this doesn't end up being a standalone Charming story, we'll see what happens.
Disney/Paul King's ‘Prince Charming' to Star Chris Hemsworth as “Bumbling Idiot" Lead — World of Reel
A source recently told me that Disney is trying to create its own “Barbie” phenomenon with this film — they see high potential in this becoming a major hit. Paul King (“Wonka,” “Paddington”) is set to direct the film.
www.worldofreel.com
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Yep sounds like it won’t be a standalone film but more part of a larger story or universe.More:
Disney/Paul King's ‘Prince Charming' to Star Chris Hemsworth as “Bumbling Idiot" Lead — World of Reel
A source recently told me that Disney is trying to create its own “Barbie” phenomenon with this film — they see high potential in this becoming a major hit. Paul King (“Wonka,” “Paddington”) is set to direct the film.
I don't think there's much potential in this Prince Charming project. Disney itself already had the Enchanted films and the film of Into the Woods tackle this particular archetype, and with all the other parodies out there (not least the Shrek franchise, which is getting a fifth installment that will likely reach theaters before this does) there's no meat left on this bone. And while I think Paul King is a genuinely talented writer-director - Wonka worked far better as a Disney-style fairy tale musical than Wish did, and he sure has a knack for coming up with the "classic Disney villains" Disney Adults insist audiences want more of - I think he's benefitted from not being under the extreme corporate oversight he'd be under if he were actually working for Disney. There's no way a project like this doesn't get focus-tested to death, especially if Disney's trying to make it their equivalent of another company's work.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Thursday night previews -
Not much going going on besides MCU adjacent Venom 3 which had a respectable but not out of this world preview, predictions are $60-$80M for the weekend.
DP&W after moving into 12th place on the all time domestic chart above Barbie last weekend, it has gone way down to 300 theaters, so effectively out of theaters for this weekend. Rumors are its getting is physical media release November 2nd, which is right around when D+ should be getting it as well.
Not much going going on besides MCU adjacent Venom 3 which had a respectable but not out of this world preview, predictions are $60-$80M for the weekend.
DP&W after moving into 12th place on the all time domestic chart above Barbie last weekend, it has gone way down to 300 theaters, so effectively out of theaters for this weekend. Rumors are its getting is physical media release November 2nd, which is right around when D+ should be getting it as well.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Here's the weekend tally's so far -
MCU adjacent Venom 3 just didn't bring in the butts this time around coming in under even the most conservative predictions. Doesn't bode well for the hunter in December's Kraven. Sony might be looking to Disney/Marvel to save the day again in the near future. One hopes they just give up and sell the rights back soon, they (and the IP) would just be better off in the long run.
MCU adjacent Venom 3 just didn't bring in the butts this time around coming in under even the most conservative predictions. Doesn't bode well for the hunter in December's Kraven. Sony might be looking to Disney/Marvel to save the day again in the near future. One hopes they just give up and sell the rights back soon, they (and the IP) would just be better off in the long run.
Venom - The Last Dance had to go up against both early Halloween celebrations and the first games of a big-deal World Series, as noted by the analysts. And it's getting clearer and clearer that the occasional Deadpool & Wolverine aside, that is to say movies that feature really really really popular characters, general audiences are just running out of interest in comic book-derived movies. Still, I didn't have this managing a better opening than Joker Folie a Deux on my metaphorical bingo card.
Looks like a thin few weeks ahead until Wicked Part One and Gladiator II roll in, unless anyone here's excited for Red One or The Best Christmas Pageant Ever...
Looks like a thin few weeks ahead until Wicked Part One and Gladiator II roll in, unless anyone here's excited for Red One or The Best Christmas Pageant Ever...
Or... Let There Be Carnage got bad to middling reviews and scores and thus was the cause of a lack of interest in a sequel.
Cf. Cars 3
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Just like anything I think it comes down to execution. Venom 3 while fun wasn't executed very well, so it didn't have any hook in my opinion to bring people back. And I could have told you it would have done better than Joker 2, as it didn't try to do the bait-and-switch of it being a musical. Its why, while I think it'll do well overall, some maybe turned off by Wicked since the trailers aren't 100% clear its a musical. As believe it or not there are people out there that don't know its a musical.
There are a few other mid-level movies that may interest people such Here, Heretic, and Elevation before Wicked and Gladiator 2 open.
BrianLo
Well-Known Member
We still haven’t really seen a good superhero film severely underperform yet. Maybe The Marvels in the extreme sense?
But I feel too like this remains largely just a quality control issue out of Warner and Sony.
The MCU box office average benchmark post-Endgame is largely consistent with the pre Endgame run.
But I feel too like this remains largely just a quality control issue out of Warner and Sony.
The MCU box office average benchmark post-Endgame is largely consistent with the pre Endgame run.
TalkingHead
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Finally saw Wild Robot, pretty good and better than anything I’ve seen from Disney in ages.
TalkingHead
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Inching closer and closer to the inevitable Marvel/DC crossover movie(s). Alan Smithee’s dying to have another credit.
BrianLo
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‘Wicked’ To Cast $80M+ Opening Spell, ‘Gladiator II’ To Roar $65M – Box Office Early Look
'Wicked' is set to capture females in its opening weekend with $80M while 'Gladiator II' is eyeing $65M with men and older women in the pre-Thanksgiving frame.
deadline.com
A rising tide raises all ships. Theatres are having a much, much better second half of the year.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
I know we've had to adjust expectations post-2020, but $80M seems low even by adjusted standards for something like Wicked. Especially since predictions from just a week or so ago was $100-$125M. So that seems to indicate that pre-sales are not going as well as originally hoped. Is it possible Moana 2 is having an effect?‘Wicked’ To Cast $80M+ Opening Spell, ‘Gladiator II’ To Roar $65M – Box Office Early Look
'Wicked' is set to capture females in its opening weekend with $80M while 'Gladiator II' is eyeing $65M with men and older women in the pre-Thanksgiving frame.
A rising tide raises all ships. Theatres are having a much, much better second half of the year.
I wonder if it'll be adjusted down again as we get closer to release.